The 'Lady' of Guadalupe: Any Future Ramifications?
Claimed 'Lady of Guadalupe,' Mexico City (Photo by Jan Zatko)
By COGwriter
Have you heard of one called "Our Lady of Guadalupe."
Did this 'Lady' change of affect civilization? Might what happened affect civilization again?
Here is some additional information about what occurred from a Catholic source:
Guadalupe is, strictly speaking, the name of a picture, but the name was extended to the church containing the picture and to the town that grew up around the church. It makes the shrine, it occasions the devotion, it illustrates Our Lady…
The word is Spanish Arabic, but in Mexico it may represent certain Aztec sounds.
Its tradition is long-standing and constant, and in sources both oral and written, Indian and Spanish, the account is unwavering. The Blessed Virgin appeared on Saturday 9 December 1531 to a 55 year old neophyte named Juan Diego, who was hurrying down Tepeyac hill to hear Mass in Mexico City. She sent him to Bishop Zumárraga to have a temple built where she stood. She was at the same place that evening and Sunday evening to get the bishop‘s answer. The bishop did not immediately believed the messenger, had him cross-examined and watched, and he finally told him to ask the lady who said she was the mother of the true God for a sign. The neophyte agreed readily to ask for sign desired, and the bishop released him.
Juan was occupied all Monday with Bernardino, an uncle, who was dying of fever. Indian medicine had failed, and Bernardino seemed at death‘s door. At daybreak on Tuesday 12 December 1531, Juan ran to nearby the Saint James convent for a priest. To avoid the apparition and the untimely message to the bishop, he slipped round where the well chapel now stands. But the Blessed Virgin crossed down to meet him…
Gathering many into the lap of his tilma, a long cloak or wrapper used by Mexican Indians, he came back. The Holy Mother rearranged the roses, and told him to keep them untouched and unseen until he reached the bishop. When he met with Zumárraga, Juan offered the sign to the bishop. As he unfolded his cloak the roses, fresh and wet with dew, fell out. Juan was startled to see the bishop and his attendants kneeling before him. The life size figure of the Virgin Mother, just as Juan had described her, was glowing on the tilma. The picture was venerated, guarded in the bishop‘s chapel, and soon after carried in procession to the preliminary shrine. (Priest Roderick Vonhögen, CEO. Our Lady of Guadalupe. http://saints.sqpn.com/our-lady-of-guadalupe/ viewed 11/30/13)
The above is one fancified account and is a somewhat inaccurate report about it. While it is true that the bishop did not believe it at first, he also correctly at first suspected that this was some pagan apparition. Mary, the mother of Jesus, never appeared there, and even the Catholic leaders in the region initially realized that.
But reports of this apparition did affect civilization. (A video of related interest is titled: The 'Lady of Guadalupe' and Prophecy.)
Here is a report that had some of the specific claims from the the Nican Mopohua. The Nican Mopohua may have written down sometime before Juan Diego's death in 1548 by the mestizo Antonio Valeriano (1520-1605). Here is some of what it says::
6It was Saturday, not yet dawn, when he was coming in pursuit of God and His commandments. 7And as he drew near the little hill called Tepeyac, it was beginning to dawn. °There he heard singing on the little hill, like the song of many precious birds. When their voices would stop, it was as if the hill were answering them. Extremely soft and delightful, their songs exceeded those of the coyoltototl and the tzinitzcan and other precious songbirds.
9Juan Diego stopped to look. He said to himself, "By any chance am I worthy, have I deserved what I hear? Perhaps I am only dreaming it? Perhaps I'm only dozing? 1°Where am I? Where do I find myself? Is it possible that I am in the place our ancient ancestors, our grandparents, told us about: in the land of the flowers, in the land of corn, of our flesh, of our sustenance, perhaps in the land of heaven?"
"He was looking up toward the top of the hill, toward the direction from which the sun rises, toward where the precious heavenly song was coming from.
12And then when the singing suddenly stopped, when it could n longer be heard, he heard someone calling him from the top of the hill someone was saying to him: "Dear Juan, dearest Juan Diego."
13Then he dared to go to where the voice was coming from, his hear was not disturbed and he felt extremely happy and contented, he starter to climb to the top of the little hill to go see where they were calling hin from. "When he reached the top of the hill, he beheld a Maiden standini there. 15She called to him to come close to her.
16And when he reached where she was, he was filled with admiratior for the way her perfect grandeur exceeded all imagination: 17her clothing was shining like the sun, as if it were sending out waves of light. 18And the stones, the crag on which she stood, seemed to be giving out rays 19like precious jades, like jewels they [the stones) gleamed. 20The earth seemed to shine with the brilliance of a rainbow in the mist. 21And the mesquites, prickly pear, and the other little plants that are generally up there seemed like quetzal feathers. Their foliage looked like turquoise. And their trunks, their thorns, their prickles, were shining like gold.
22He prostrated himself in her presence and listened to her venerable breath, her venerable words, which were extremely affable, extremely noble, as if from someone who was drawing him toward her and loved him. 23She said to him: "Listen my son, my youngest son, Juanito, where are you going?" 24And he answered her: "My Lady, my Queen, my Little Girl, I am going as far as your little house in Mexico Tlatelolco, to follow the things of God that are to us given, that are taught to us by our priests. those who are the images of the Lord, Our Lord."
25Then she spoke with him, she revealed her precious will; 26she said to him: "Know, know for sure my dearest and youngest son, that I am truly the ever perfect Holy Virgin Mary, who has the honor to be the Mother of the one true God for whom we all live, the Creator of people. the Lord of all around us and of what is close to us, the Lord of Heaven. the Lord of Earth.
"I want very much that they build my sacred little house here, 27ir which I will show Him, I will exalt Him upon making Him manifest, 281 will give Him to all people in all my personal love, Him that is my com passionate gaze, Him that is my help, Him that is my salvation. 29"Because truly I am honored to be your compassionate mother, 30yours and that of all the people that live together in this land, 31and also of all the other various lineages of men; those who love me, those who cry to me, those who seek me, those who trust in me. 32Because there [at my sacred house] truly will I hear their cry, their sadness, in order to remedy, to cure all their various troubles, their miseries, their pains (The Nican Mopohua. The Shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe, New Mexico. http://www.ologsf.com/church-history-a-missions/our-lady-of-guadalupe accessed 04/15/15).
So, we see this apparition wanted a chapel built for HER and then later this was done. Mary, the mother of Jesus, would not have asked for that. She also, like the apostles (Acts 10:25-26), would not have people bow down before her.
I would add that in the account of the Nican Mopohua I reviewed, the term 'little girl' was used 11 times and the term 'littlest daughter' twice, even though the statue of the 'Lady' there does NOT look like a little girl. It perhaps should be noted that the term 'Queen' most often in the expression 'Queen of Heaven" was used 16 times in the Nican Mopohua. The Bible warns against worshiping one called 'the queen of heaven' (Jeremiah 7:18-20; 44:16-29) and it also warns that God does not want to be worshiped the way the heathen worshiped their gods.
Revelation 12 is Not About Mary
Miguel Sanchez, the author of the 1648 tract Imagen de la Virgen María, described her as the Woman of the Apocalypse from the New Testament's Revelation 12:1, "clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars” (Brading, DA. Mexican Phoenix Our Lady of Guadalupe:Image and Tradition Across Five Centuries. Cambridge University Press, 2002, p. 58). Others have also done so (ibid, pp. 302-303).
Although many within the Roman Church believe that the woman in Revelation 12:1-6 is also Mary, notice that its comments in the Rheims New Testament (the Catholic-accepted translation of the Latin Vulgate into English), Catholic scholars used to correctly teach that the woman in 12:6 is the church fleeing persecution:
ANNOTATIONS Chapter 12
6. The woman fled. ] This great persecution that the Church shall flee from… And by enlarging the sense, it may also very well signify the desolation and affliction that the Church suffereth and hath suffered from time to time in this wilderness of the world, by all the forerunners and ministers of Antichrist, Tyrants and Heretics (The Original And True Rheims New Testament Of Anno Domini 1582., pp. 556-557)
Another Catholic priest wrote the following:
The woman of chapter 12 is not the Blessed Virgin Mary. The ancient interpreters beginning with Hippolytus and Methodius understood this was a figure of the Church. (Kramer HB. The Book of Destiny. Nihil Obstat: J.S. Considine, O.P., Censor Deputatus. Imprimatur: +Joseph M. Mueller, Bishop of Sioux City, Iowa, January 26, 1956. Reprint TAN Books, Rockford (IL), p. 276)
If the woman was Mary, this would contradict the Catholic position position that Mary gave birth to Jesus without pain as Revelation 12 teaches that pain was involved:
1 And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars: 2 And being with child, she cried travailing in birth, and was in pain to be delivered. (Revelation 12:1-2, Douay-Rheims).
The Catholic Encyclopedia says this lack of pain situation was “the teaching of some of the principal Fathers and theologians: St. Ambrose [56], St. Gregory of Nyssa [57], St. John Damascene [58], the author of Christus patiens [59], St. Thomas [60], etc.” (Maas AJ. The Blessed Virgin Mary. The Catholic Encyclopedia)
Here is what the important Catholic saint and theologian Hippolytus taught this about Revelation 12 in the third century, as well as Catholic Bishop Victorinus in the that same century:
61. By the woman then clothed with the sun, he meant most manifestly the Church, endued with the Father's word, whose brightness is above the sun. And by the moon under her feet he referred to her being adorned, like the moon, with heavenly glory. And the words, upon her head a crown of twelve stars, refer to the twelve apostles by whom the Church was founded. And those, "she, being with child, cries, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered," mean that the Church will not cease to bear from her heart the Word that is persecuted by the unbelieving in the world. "And she brought forth," he says, "a man-child, who is to rule all the nations; "by which is meant that the Church, always bringing forth Christ, the perfect man-child of God, who is declared to be God and man, becomes the instructor of all the nations. (Hippolytus on Christ and Antichrist. Translated by J.H. MacMahon. From Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. 5. Edited by Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, and A. Cleveland Coxe. (Buffalo, NY: Christian Literature Publishing Co., 1886.) Revised and edited for New Advent by Kevin Knight. <http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0516.htm>)
"Victorinus said this is "the ancient church of fathers, and prophets, and saints, and apostles" (Ante-Nicene Fathers, VII, 355) {Source: from The Wycliffe Bible Commentary, Electronic Database. Copyright (c) 1962 by Moody Press}.
Those in the Continuing Church of God also believe that the woman in Revelation 12:1-6 is referring to the Church, not Mary.
Additionally, partially because of Guadalupe, the Church of Rome changed its view that Revelation 12 had to do with the church, but it now claims that it is Mary that is the woman of Revelation 12:1.
More on 'Guadalupe'
Here are more details related to this apparition, this time from my book Fatima Shock!:
The Lady of Guadalupe: Aztec Connections
One of the most important claimed Marian apparitions is the appearance of one in Mexico known today as Our Lady of Guadalupe.
Antonio Socci reported:
The apparition of Guadalupe—according to the general acknowledgement of historians—was what attracted the Indians to Christianity. Therefore, it was precisely Guadalupe that gave birth to Latin American Christianity. (Socci A. The Fourth Secret of Fatima. Loreto Publications, English Translation 2009, p. 143)
Some, like Ted and Maureen Flynn, have gone so far as to state:
Our Lady of Guadalupe means, “She Who Crushes the Serpent.” (Flynn T, Flynn M. The Thunder of Justice. MaxKol Communications, Inc. Sterling (VA), 1993, p. 27)
But that seems to be a misunderstanding on their part. Dr. Jeanette Rodríguez, a Catholic scholar, wrote:
Juan Diego…said, “She calls herself ‘Tlecuauhtlacupeuh.’ ” To the Spaniards this sounded like “Guadalupe”…But the Nahuatl language does not contain the letters d and g; therefore our Lady’s name could not have been “Guadalupe”… The Nahuatl understanding of “Tlecuauhtlacupeuh” is La que viene volando de la luz como el áquila de fuego (she who comes flying like a region of light like an eagle of fire, Echeagaray 1981:21). The region of light was the dwelling place of the Aztec gods, and the eagle was a sign from the gods. (Rodriguez J. Our Lady of Guadalupe: faith and empowerment among Mexican-American women. University of Texas Press, 1994, pp. 45-46)
So, the Lady sounded a lot like an Aztec goddess.
Here are three online Catholic reports:
The appearance of Our Lady of Guadalupe to the Aztec Indian Juan Diego …generated the conversion of Mexico, Central and South America to Catholicism. (Our Lady of Guadalupe. http://www.maryourmother.net/ Guadalupe.html viewed 03/21/2011)
Our Lady of Guadalupe…appeared to an Aztec Indian…on Tepayac Hill, near Mexico City on December 9, 1531. (A PRAYER TO OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE. http://www.ourcatholicprayers.com/our-lady-of-guadalupe.html viewed 03/21/2011)
The Virgin of Guadalupe appeared in what is now Mexico City on the holy hill of Tepeyac, dedicated to Tonantzin, the Mother Earth goddess of the Aztecs. That is one reason why the bishop didn’t believe Juan Diego. He must have thought: “We know who appears on that mountain and it’s not the Virgin Mary but some pagan goddess!” Actually, the native Mexicans thought the same thing: “We know who appears on that hill: Tonantzin!” And so they referred to what we call ‘Virgin of Guadalupe’ as ‘Tonantzin’ for more than a century. To this day Mexicans know the Virgin if {sic} Guadalupe not as just another form of Mother Mary, but as a particularly Mexican Queen of Heaven. (Rozett E. Mother Mary and the Goddess. http://www.interfaithmary.com/pages/mary_goddess.html viewed 04/07/2011)
It has been claimed that “Tonantzin, the mother goddess of the Aztecs, then took the form of the Virgin Mary. Therefore Tonantzin was substituted…because of the necessity to convert to the Catholic religion under a new political regime.” (Breaux JJ. Intransigence & Indifference: Essays Concerning Religion and Spirituality. Lulu.com, 2008, p. 85)
Bernandino Sahagún, a Catholic missionary, wrote, “Now that the church of Our Lady of Guadalupe has been built the Indians call her Tonantzin…This is an abuse that should be stopped…The Indians today as, in the old days, come from afar to see this Tonantzin.”(Bernandino Sahagún, 1958 as cited in Smith JB. The image of Guadalupe, 2nd revised ed. Mercer University Press, 1994, p. 111) Though Tonantzin could have been more of a title than a name, she is sometimes known as Coatlique, the serpent skirt goddess. (Espinosa G, Garcia MT. Mexican American religions: spirituality, activism, and culture. Duke University Press, 2008, p. 161)
Over one hundred years ago, the following was written:
The Legend of Our Lady of Guadalupe
Over three hundred years ago, it is said, an Indian was walking near the hill of Guadalupe, when there appeared to him a dark-skinned maiden. She ordered him to go to the Bishop and tell him she desired to have a church built in her honor on that spot… The Mexicans believe that the Virgin is their only protector, and they pray, “Holy Mary, Mother of God, save us from the wrath of Christ. Holy Mary, Mother of God, save us from the wrath of Christ.” (Woman’s missionary friend, Volumes 41-42. Woman’s Foreign Missionary Society of the Methodist Episcopal Church, 1909. Original from the University of Michigan, Digitized Dec 10, 2008, p. 57)
Notice that the Lady wanted something built for her honor and many believed that it was through the Lady that they could be spared from Christ! The Bible shows it is Jesus who spares from the wrath to come (1 Thessalonians 1:10), not Mary. Thus, it could not have been a visit from Mary of the Bible. Furthermore, the Bible repeatedly mentions that God is merciful (e.g. James 5:11), but sacred scripture never specifically mentions that that any should go to Mary for mercy. The fact that at least one account states that the Lady had dark-skin (she has also been called the “mestiza Virgin”: Anderson C, Chávez E. Our Lady of Guadalupe: Mother of the Civilization of Love. Random House Digital, Inc., 2009, p. 79) and “Indian Virgin”: Rodriguez, p. 45) suggests that she did not look the same as certain other apparitions many later claimed to be Mary.
Why report any of this?
Because just like the Lady of Guadalupe (who could not have been Mary) was used to convert much of Latin America to a form of Catholicism, it is likely that a future apparition will be used to convert people in the end times to an ecumenical form of “Catholicism.” People need to be warned about this.
Decades after the "Lady of Guadalupe' appeared, according to the renowned Franciscan Bernadino de Sahagun, Indians came from far away "to worship Tonantzin, the mother of the gods, at her temple in Tepeyac, and continued to arrive at the Christian temple to pray to that goddess since in Nahuatl the Virgin was also addressed as Tonantzin" (Brading, DA. Mexican Phoenix Our Lady of Guadalupe:Image and Tradition Across Five Centuries. Cambridge University Press, 2002, p. 2).
The written record that does exist suggests the Catholic clergy in 16th century Mexico were deeply divided as to the orthodoxy of the cult springing up around the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe, with the Franciscan order (who had custody of the chapel at Tepeyac) being strongly opposed to the cult, while the Dominicans supported it. The main promoter of the cult was the Dominican Alonso de Montúfar, who succeeded the Franciscan Juan de Zumárraga as archbishop of Mexico. (Our Lady of Guadalupe, Wikipedia, accessed 04/22/15)
The Dominican pushing of this seems to have been useful to them.
Notice the following, from a Roman Catholic publication:
Also, review what happened after Our Lady of Guadalupe, Patroness of the Americas, appeared to Juan Deigo in Mexico. Nine million conversions took place within the short span of ten years. (Walters BW. Russian Sunrise: Prelude to World Peace. Fatima Crusader, 111, Winter 2015, p. 62)
So, just one ‘Marian apparition’ has been claimed to have been effective in turning Latin America predominantly Roman Catholic–this profoundly affected those cultures and the world. What will happen if some type of ‘Marian apparition’ is seen and even shown on media like television and/or the internet?
There are other religious sites related to this. Here is the report from one in Santa Fe, New Mexico:
The History of the Santuario de Guadalupe
Colonists from Mexico in the 17th and 18th centuries brought devotion to Our Lady of Guadalupe with them. The first church of Our Lady of Guadalupe, a tiny adobe structure on the banks of the Santa Fe River was built as a shrine to Our Lady of the New World. Information fixes the date as 1777. At the time of its construction, the little adobe church was a shrine only, not a parish. ...
The Santuario de Guadalupe in Santa Fe, built shortly after 1776, is an enduring landmark commemorating the strong presence of our Lady of Guadalupe. This is the oldest, still-standing shrine built in honor of Our Lady in the United States. However, there are no reliable documents citing the precise construction date. A letter from the then Bishop of Durango, Mexico, dated October 14, 1775, in the Archdiocese of Santa Fe archives, read that "permission (licensia) was being granted to several chapels including the Guadalupe of Santa Fe". "The nature of the permission is unclear, but it would appear to be for performing religious duties since it was built prior to the date of the letter". The Santuario de Guadalupe was constructed adjacent to the Santa Fe River and near the end of El Camino Real (Royal Highway), a colonial trade route from Mexico City via Chihuahua to Santa Fe. The Church originally known as Guadalupe Church, was constructed on a Latin cross floor plan, with thick adobe walls, a flat roof supported by vigas, a packed dirt floor and a three-tiered bell tower. Between 1881 and 1884 the parish was drastically altered. The flat roof was replaced with a pitched one, the bell tower was replaced with an orange colored spire and mock-Gothic windows placed into the walls. June 27, 1922 a fire razed the roof, the spire was near collapse and destroyed the painted frescoes. The adobe walls and altar survived. The restoration was made in a California mission style, a bell tower was erected and the building received new wooden flooring. (The History of the Santuario de Guadalupe. The Shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe, New Mexico. http://www.ologsf.com/church-history-a-missions/history accessed 04/15/15).
My wife Joyce and I visited this shrine on April 25th and 26th of 2015 to do research and make a sermonette video (watch The 'Lady of Guadalupe' and Prophecy).
Why?
It has been my contention for several years, after searching the scriptures and studying history, that one or more apparitions believed to be Jesus’ mother ‘Mary” will be seen by the general public. Will not many be deceived by this? The Bible is clear that massive deception is coming (Matthew 24:24; 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12). Pope Francis has been encouraging Marian devotion through his words and actions. Even Russia’s President Putin has joined in (Russia’s Putin and Pope Francis both kiss Marian icon). Increased acceptance of non-biblical views of Mary are affecting people.
Here is some of what Pope Francis has said about this in 2013:
MESSAGE TO THE AMERICAS for the Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe…the Patroness of the Americas. I would like to greet all my brothers and sisters on that continent, and I do so thinking of the Virgin of Tepeyac…
When the image of the Virgin appeared on the tilma of Juan Diego, it was the prophecy of an embrace: Mary’s embrace of all the peoples of the vast expanses of America – the peoples who already lived there, and those who were yet to come…I ask all the people of the Americas to open wide their arms, like the Virgin, with love and tenderness. http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2013/12/11/pope_francis_sends_message_to_the_americas/en1-754682
So, Pope Francis is calling for all to turn to his version of Mary and hopes others will in the future. December 12th is designated by the Church of Rome as the memorial day for “Our Lady of Guadalupe.”
Even in New York City, the Guadalupe adoration is being promoted:
STATEN ISLAND, N. Y. — A mass celebrated in Spanish by Bishop Gerald Walsh, vicar general of the Archdiocese of New York, will be the highlight of a celebration on Thursday in honor of Our Lady of Guadalupe, patroness of the Americas and the Mexican people, at Holy Rosary Parish in South Beach.
The day will begin with the traditional Mananitas, which is the early morning serenading of the statue of Our Lady of Guadalupe, at 6:30 am in the parish mission church on Sand Lane. A procession with the statue of Our Lady will begin in the mission church at 6:45 p.m. and proceed to the main church at 80 Jerome Avenue. http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/12/post_642.html
Notice that people serenade an idol, and that this is encouraged by Roman Bishops. People are somewhat getting prepared for more Marian veneration. Perhaps I should mention here that the “rosary” alleged entered the Church of Rome from someone who claimed that he got it from a claimed Marian apparition. ‘Marion apparitions’ have affected humanity and may have even greater impact in the not-so-distance future.
Pope Francis visited the shrine to the 'Lady' of Guadaluep in Mexico in 2016:
February 14, 2016
On Saturday Pope Francis fulfilled his much-desired wish to pray in silence before the miraculous image of Our Lady of Guadalupe.
After celebrating the first Mass of his papal trip to Mexico, the Pope made his way to the “camarin” (“little room”) behind the main altar of the basilica dedicated to Mary. The miraculous mantle, which normally faces the congregation, can be turned around to allow a closer and more private moment of veneration. ...
Built in 1976, the Basilica of Our Lady of Guadalupe is located near Tepeyac hill, the site of Mary’s apparitions to St Juan Diego in 1531. With some 12 million people visiting each year, it is Catholicism’s most popular Marian shrine. http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2016/02/14/98956/
Vatican Radio) At the conclusion of Holy Mass Saturday at the Basilica of Our Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico City, Pope Francis led the faithful in the Rite of Coronation of the image of the Most Holy Virgin of Guadalupe. Veronica Scarisbrick is our correspondent traveling with Pope Francis in Mexico. She takes a look at the importance of this Marian image and the history behind it:
“You are not an orphaned people, as you are proud to have a ‘Mother” Pope Francis once said speaking to Mexicans about Our Lady of Guadalupe.
I asked a number of people here Mexico City what the 'Morenita' meant to them and they all replied: 'She is our ‘Mother’. Except for one person, a security guard who replied: 'She is our 'jefa', our boss.
I don’t know what Pope Francis would have said to that but what’s certain is that his devotion to Our Lady of Guadalupe runs deep. http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2016/02/13/coronation_of_the_most_holy_virgin_of_guadalupe/1208365
Of course, as even The Catholic Encyclopedia admits, no early Christian venerated Jesus' mother Mary (see Mary, the Mother of Jesus and the Apparitions). Yet, Pope Francis and many others venerate/worship something that they claim is supposed to be her. Mary is NOT our mother nor our boss. For Christians, we are to follow Jesus.
Partially, to see how modern people view apparitions (as part of my book research) my wife and I also went to Fatima, Portugal. While at Fatima I was surprised by the size of its entire sanctuary complex, but not the vast amount of visitors which came. My wife Joyce and I saw thousands of visitors in Fatima on May 29, 2011. And that is much less than the amount who tend to show up there on May 13 and October 13 (the anniversary days of the first and last appearance of the apparition) each year. Millions visit Fatima, Portugal each year, with the vast majority of them believing that Mary actually appeared there (though the apparition in Fatima never actually identified herself as Mary, nor based upon its appearance could it possibly have been).
It is remains my position that it is very likely that apparitions that people will claim will be Mary, the mother of Jesus, will be part of the signs and lying wonders that are mentioned in 2 Thessalonians 2:9 and Matthew 24:24 (cf. Isaiah 47; Nahum 3:4-5).
The current Marian focused Pope Francis, as well as somewhat like-minded bishops, will likely be a factor in this. The ‘success’ of the ‘Lady of Guadalupe’ should serve as a warning to all that the world can be highly affected by apparitions that some will falsely believe are Mary, the mother of Jesus.
A video of related interest is titled: The 'Lady of Guadalupe' and Prophecy.
Thiel B. The 'Lady' of Guadalupe: Any Future Ramifications? http://www.cogwriter.com/lady-of-guadalupe.htm COGwriter (c) 2015/2016 0214
Some additional items of possibly related interest may include:
Mary, the Mother of Jesus and the Apparitions Do you know much about Mary? Are the apparitions real? What happened at Fatima? What might they mean for the rise of the ecumenical religion of Antichrist? Are Protestants moving towards Mary? How do the Eastern/Greek Orthodox view Mary? How might Mary view her adorers? Here is a link to a YouTube video Marian Apparitions May Fulfill Prophecy.
Satan’s Plan Does Satan have a plan? What is it? Has it already been successful? Will it be successful in the future?
Mystery of Civilization Why is civilization like it is? How will it end? What will replace it?Here is a link to a related sermon titled: Mystery of Civilization and How it Will End.
Pope Francis: Could this Marian Focused Pontiff be Fulfilling Prophecy? Pope Francis has taken many steps to turn people more towards his version of ‘Mary.’ Could this be consistent with biblical and Catholic prophecies? This article documents what has been happening. There is also a video version titled Pope Francis: Could this Marian Focused Pontiff be Fulfilling Prophecy?
Feast of the Immaculate Conception? Did early Christians teach Mary had an immaculate conception and led a sinless life?
Origin of the Marian Dogmas: Where Do Catholic Scholars Say The Four Dogmas of Mary Came From?
Assumption of Mary Did Mary die? Was she taken to heaven on August 15th? What is known? What does the Bible show?
What Did the Early Church Teach About Idols and Icons? Did Catholic and Orthodox “saints” endorse or condemn idols and icons for Christians?
Fatima Shock! What the Vatican Does Not Want You to Know About Fatima, Dogmas of Mary, and Future Apparitions. Whether or not you believe anything happened at Fatima, if you live long enough, you will be affected by its ramifications (cf. Isaiah 47; Revelation 17). Fatima Shock! provides concerned Christians with enough Catholic-documented facts to effectively counter every false Marian argument. In addition to the print version, there is a Kindle version of Fatima Shock! which you can acquire in seconds.