‘Brexit: Trade talks with the EU are over, says No 10’
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UK Prime Minister hopeful, Boris Johnson made a Brexit pledge:
Deal or no deal, we leave EU on October 31 – PM candidate Johnson
17 October 2020
Talks between the UK and EU over a post-Brexit trade agreement are “over”, Downing Street has said.
No 10 argued there was “no point” in discussions continuing next week unless the EU was prepared to discuss the detailed legal text of a partnership.
UK chief negotiator Lord Frost said he had told EU counterpart Michel Barnier there was now no “basis” for planned talks on Monday.
Number 10 said the two sides had agreed to talk again next week – by phone.
Earlier, EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen tweeted that the Brussels negotiating team would go to London after the weekend to “intensify” discussions.
France’s Europe minister Clément Beaune told BBC Newsnight that, while the EU would not pursue a deal at any cost, “we will listen to what the UK side wants to say to us”. …
And the UK government hardened up its message to the EU over the course of Friday.
In the morning, Boris Johnson said the country had to “get ready” to trade next year without an agreement, although he did not say the talks were over.
He suggested the EU was unwilling to consider seriously the UK’s preferred option of a comprehensive free trade agreement based on the bloc’s existing arrangement with Canada.
The UK, he added, must look at the “alternative” – which he suggested was Australia’s much-more limited set of agreements with the EU.
The prime minister’s official spokesman took a tougher line with Brussels later in the day.
“There is only any point in Michel Barnier coming to London next week if he’s prepared to address all the issues on the basis of a legal text in an accelerated way, without the UK required to make all the moves or to discuss the practicalities of travel and haulage,” he said.
“If not, there is no point in coming.”
He added: “Trade talks are over. The EU have effectively ended them by saying they do not want to change their negotiating position.”
The UK and EU had been hoping for a “zero-tariff” agreement to govern their trading relationship once the UK’s post-Brexit transition period ends on 31 December.
If no deal is reached, they will operate on World Trade Organization rules, meaning tariffs are imposed. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-54566897
So, it looks like a no deal Brexit is getting more feasible.
“Deal or No Deal” was the name of a television game show that was popular in the USA and UK for a time. It was essentially a high risk game that was based upon luck. Brexit is more complicated and serious.
The Europeans are not pleased:
Opinion: Sometimes you just have to let go
First, Boris Johnson issued the EU with an ultimatum. Then he threatened to pull out of trade negotiations. DW’s Barbara Wesel believes EU leaders should keep their cool and avoid stooping to Johnson’s level.
The best way to react to Boris Johnson is to let him stew in his own juice. …
Boris Johnson has been complaining that the EU has not compromised sufficiently during negotiations on a post-Brexit trade deal and is refusing to give the British what they want. As a result, he said the country would possibly have to prepare for a hard Brexit, a no-deal departure from the EU that would bring the transition period to an abrupt end at the end of the year. …
Johnson’s behavior reeks of playacting, a swaggering display to win over a home crowd. But there he can only impress those people already determined to believe their own propaganda. But that, unfortunately, lies at the heart of populism. It is a show for those Britons who are completely devoid of irony and blessed with very short memories. …
What is happening on the other side of the Channel is a sorry sight, indeed. The country is governed by a politician whose political program consists of vacuous slogans. Boris Johnson very recently insisted that the UK could “prosper mightily” even in the event of a no-deal Brexit. …
Perhaps all the theatrics in London are just part of a negotiation drama that requires Act Three to be full of commotion and shooting so that necessary and reasonable compromises can be agreed in the final moments before the curtain falls. But the British prime minister is unpredictable. It could all go horribly wrong. And Johnson’s remarks that the EU had refused to negotiate seriously are just embarrassingly provocative.
The EU would be wise to avoid stooping to this level. It cannot give the UK the same access to markets as EU member states. Of course, things won’t be as good as they were before. And legal restrictions will also inevitably be part and parcel of the deal — just as with all other trade agreements.
There are only two options left: Boris Johnson makes another U-turn and signs a deal in two weeks’ time. Or he adopts a hard course and accepts the consequences — from rising food prices to endless lines of trucks queuing at the ferry port in Dover. Then the Europeans will just have to accept that they have to let go, to accept that they are unable to make the UK government happy — at least not at all costs. 10/16/20 https://www.dw.com/en/opinion-sometimes-you-just-have-to-let-go/a-55306238
The EU, itself, has long opposed Brexit and will not be pleased with what is considered to be a no-deal, or otherwise somewhat negotiated, Brexit.
As far as the EU’s real feelings go, BBC’s Kevin Connolly reported a while back (see EU states that UK must pay a price for Brexit and be worse off than EU member states):
The 27 EU Remainer states are adamant that Britain will pay a price for leaving and will be worse off outside than the union than it is on the inside.
The EU does not want other nations thinking that they can, should, or might leave.
US President Trump has been supportive of Brexit (e,g, see Donald Trump pushing Brexit, pushing Mexico, and pushing against India)–and the EU has not liked that either.
Both Donald Trump and the UK hope to make a trade deal with each other for political and economic reasons.
These acts do not endear the UK or USA to the EU.
The Bible tells of a time when the strongest military will be defeated and the fortresses of Ephraim will be no more:
39 Thus he shall act against the strongest fortresses with a foreign god, which he shall acknowledge, and advance its glory; and he shall cause them to rule over many, and divide the land for gain (Daniel 11:39).
3 The fortress also will cease from Ephraim, (Isaiah 17:3)
The strongest fortresses in the world currently belong to the USA (see also USA in Prophecy: The Strongest Fortresses). Ephraim is a reference to the UK and its British-descended allies of Canada, Australia, and New Zealand (see Anglo – America in Prophecy & the Lost Tribes of Israel).
The “he” in Daniel 11:39 is a reference to the coming European (Daniel 9:26-27) King of the North (cf. Daniel 11:40).
The late Pastor General of the old Worldwide Church of God, Herbert W. Armstrong, wrote the following in 1979 about his views of what Europe will one day do:
What is this abomination? This refers to Daniel 11:31 and Matthew 24:15…That will be a time when the UNITED Europe shall appear–the revival of the medieval “Holy Roman Empire.” We shall then be warned, and readied to be taken to a place of refuge and safety from the Great Tribulation. Forty-five days later “the beasts armies” will surround Jerusalem. Thirty days later the Great Tribulation will probably start with a nuclear attack on London and Britain–and possibly the same day or immediately after, on the United States and Canadian cities. The GREAT TRIBULATION, we shall fully then realize, is the time of “Jacob’s Trouble,” spoken of in Jeremiah 30:7. And Jacob’s name was named on Joseph’s sons, Ephraim and Manasseh (Gen. 48:16). At that time a third of the people in our nations will die, or shall have died, by famine and disease epidemics; another third will dies of the war–our cities being destroyed (Ezek. 6:6), and the remaining third will be carried to the land of our enemies as slaves (Ezek. 5:12). (Armstrong HW. The Time We Are In, Now. Pastor General’s Report-Vol 1, No. 15, November 20, 1979, Page 2).
Irrespective of which nation is attacked first, both the USA and UK will lose their respective sovereignties.
Europe will not forgive or forget Brexit nor the USA’s support of it.
But eventually, even the USA and its British-descended allies will tend to turn on each other:
21 Manasseh shall devour Ephraim, and Ephraim Manasseh;
Together they shall be against Judah.For all this His anger is not turned away,
But His hand is stretched out still. (Isaiah 9:21)
Manasseh represents the USA (see also Anglo – America in Prophecy & the Lost Tribes of Israel). Alliances will not hold as many seem to think that they will.
Europe is not happy related to Brexit.
A ‘no deal’ or ‘hard Brexit’ will only tend to speed-up European resolve against the UK.
Related to Brexit, the Continuing Church of God (CCOG) put together the following video for our Bible News Prophecy program:
At 11:00 pm January 31, 2020, the United Kingdom formally left the European Union. Many celebrated, while many mourned. Nigel Farage stated, “This is the greatest moment in modern British history.” What will happen to the United Kingdom? Will the UK be involved in trade deals with the United States of America and the Europeans? Will the UK regret the BRitish Exit (Brexit) from the EU? What will happen with the European Union? Is Europe prophesied to have a great army and many ships? Does the Bible prophesy a reorganization of Europe? Does it prophesy that the Europeans will become a conquering military power? Is the United Kingdom prophesied to be conquered? How does the Bible name the British-descended peoples? Was the British Empire the largest in world history? Was Brexit predicted by Church of God leaders in 1970 and the early 1990s? Will the European Union be negatively affected financially by the departure of the UK? Will this turn out well for the UK or the Europeans? Dr. Thiel addresses these issues and more in this video.
Here is a link to our video: Brexit Happened: Now What?
Ultimately we will see the end of the UK at the hands of the coming European Beast in the long run (cf. Isaiah 17:3a; Daniel 8:24-25).
Some items of possibly related interest may include:
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