‘Does Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg want to gain a foothold in Germany again?’
Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg (photo by )
A reader sent me a link to the following:
Does Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg want to gain a foothold in Germany again?
In the lobby affair surrounding Philipp Amthor, Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg is a dazzling marginal figure. There are rumors surrounding his return to the political stage. …
The affair with the ominous start-up Augustus Intelligence, to which both Amthor and Guttenberg had business ties, not only marks the (preliminary) end of a steep career for a young conservative from Mecklenburg. The best side effect of the debate is probably that it should finally give momentum to efforts to increase lobbying transparency in the Bundestag.
In addition, however, the events cast new light on the baron, who is still haunted by German and Bavarian politics. Sometimes he does that as a promise, sometimes as a threat, it depends on the perspective.
In any case, it is still the case even after years in exile in America. In his prime, Guttenberg once had an aura somewhere between conservative Barack Obama and Tom Cruise. Political operations do not forget something like this so quickly; simply because it’s so rare.
His wife and he were considered a political dream couple, on the best way to the Chancellery. Until, yes, until a doctoral thesis came in between, Guttenberg has put together a few jokes over the years. This demonstrative self-irony bathed in refinement is generally very well received.
But what is Guttenberg doing today? Where and how exactly is he working outside of Augustus Intelligence? And could he possibly actually return to the big political federal stage again? …
The following can only be considered fairly certain: Guttenberg assumes that some have a deep longing for a return to politics, driven by the idea of full rehabilitation, reparation. …
“Honestly, Guttenberg no longer plays a political role,” says a CDU MP. “Karl-Theodor is a great communicator, but he definitely lacks substance,” says a CSU student. …
The fact that Stephanie zu Guttenberg recently told the “Gala” about a family return to Germany is causing talk in the capital. Some spread the rumor that “KT” is looking for an electoral district for the return to the Bundestag, others consider that to be empty talk, even nonsense. 06/27/20 https://www.web24.news/u/2020/06/does-karl-theodor-zu-guttenberg-want-to-gain-a-foothold-in-germany-again.html
Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg may not have much of a political role in 2020, but he still has one. His political influence looks to greatly increase in the future.
Baron Guttenberg was formerly the Economics then Defense Minister for the Federal Republic of Germany.
Because of him being accused of plagiarizing much of his doctoral dissertation, he resigned in disgrace and exiled himself and his family to the USA for several years.
He has been involved in blockchain (company called Ripple) and has been peripherally involved in some EU matters since his resignation.
Currently, Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg is President in charge of General Affairs for Augustus Intelligence.
Could he have a major political future?
Consider that the problems Karl zu Guttenberg had seem consistent with a prophecy in Daniel 11:21. Here are three translations of that:
21 And there shall stand up in his place one despised, and the kingly honour shall not be given him: and he shall come privately, and shall obtain the kingdom by fraud. (Daniel 11:21, Douay-Rheims)
21 “‘His place will be taken by a reject, a man spurned and passed over for advancement. He’ll surprise everyone, seemingly coming out of nowhere, and will seize the kingdom. (Daniel 11:21 from THE MESSAGE: The Bible in Contemporary Language © 2002 by Eugene H. Peterson. All rights reserved.)
21 And in his place shall stand up a contemptible person, to whom they had not given the honor of the kingdom: but he shall come in time of security, and shall obtain the kingdom by flatteries. (Daniel 11:21, ASV)
Interestingly, the Baron was considered to have had a major chance to become Chancellor of Germany before the plagiarism scandal. In a sense, he was “a man spurned and passed over for advancement” as THE MESSAGE version of Daniel 11:21 indicates.
Notice also the following prophecy of the Great Monarch leader that Roman and Eastern Orthodox writers have longed for:
Anonymou Paraphrasis (10th century): Men thought of him that he is a nobody and useful for nothing. (Tzima Otto. The Great Monarch and WWIII in Orthodox, Roman Catholic, and Scriptural Prophecies. Verenika Press, Rock City (SC), 2000, p. 32)
Many wrote Baron Guttenberg off. Some still do.
But he is not out.
An Eastern Orthodox prophecy indicates that the Great Monarch will re-enter the political realm:
Anonymou Paraphrasis (10th century): And the (Guardian Angel will say to him further: come forth from your hiding place, do not hide yourself any longer, many are looking for you [or, are searching for you, are demanding to see you, asking for you]; everybody will exit and only you, alone, will enter. (Tzima Otto, p. 31)
Could this be KT?
We will see.
Notice a Roman Catholic prophecy:
Venerable Holzhauser (died 1658): He will be a Catholic, a descendant of Louis IX, (yet) a descendant of an ancient German family, born in exile. (Culleton, The Prophets and Our Times, p. 171).
The Baron is a “Catholic” and a descendant of an ancient German family, but he was not really born in exile (although some might interpret the fact that Germany was divided into East and West at the time of his birth as a “time” of German exile).
The ancestry of the expected Great Monarch in Catholic prophecy sometimes supports the Baron, but not always. Here are two that partially seem to:
Brother Louis Rocco (died 1840): A Catholic descendant of a German imperial house (Hapsburg?) will rule a united Germany with peace, prosperity and great power, for God will be with this sovereign (Great Monarch?)…A Great Monarch will arise after a period of terrible wars and persecutions in Europe. He will be a Catholic, he will not be a German (by birth?). (Culleton, The Prophets and Our Times, p. 195).
Anonymou Paraphrasis (10th century): And the name of his Father is divine [or august, i.e. having an “imperial title”]. (Tzima Otto, p. 40)
Note: the parenthetical comments with question marks were inserted in the prediction by the Catholic priest Culleton. His comments (which were written about 70 years ago) would point to someone such as the Baron, who is a descendant of the Habsburg/Hapsburg line. As far as not being German, perhaps it does not mean “by birth,” but perhaps could be interpreted to mean that he has a mixed heritage (as do most of the Habsburg line). Dr. Tzima Otto put the “imperial title” comment in her quote. And since he too was a baron, the Baron’s father had what could be considered as an imperial title. The Hapsburgs, for a time, ruled over the ‘Holy Roman Empire.’
KT Guttenberg is also a Habsburg/Hapsburg descendant.
The old Worldwide Church of God indicated that the Beast could be Habsburg/Hapsburg descendant. It also published:
The House of Habsburg will play a leading role in European affairs for centuries to come. The ideal of universal rule — unity under a single authority — is by no means dead. ( Stump KW. THE HISTORY OF EUROPE & THE CHURCH Part Five THE FIRST REICH. Plain Truth, November-December 1983).
For a time, it watched Otto von Habsburg (e.g Hogberg GH. Otto von Habsburg MAN WITH A MISSION. Plain Truth, March 1984; Stump KW. THE HISTORY OF EUROPE & THE CHURCH Part Ten THE FINAL UNION. Plain Truth, June 1984).
Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg has long pushed for Europe to be dominant in the world including matters of military and digital technology. We made a sermon video about that in the past and put it up on the ContinuingCOG channel:
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Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg and Europe’s Future
Former German Economic & Technology Minister as well as former Defense Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg spoke at the Hub Conference in Berlin and gave a presentation titled “Wish List or Reality? Digital Trends in 2016.” Dr. Thiel shows portions of the presentation and comments on his presentation related to Bible prophecy and Baron Guttenberg’s background. What is the future for Europe?
Here is a link to the sermon: Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg and Europe’s Future.
On October 22, 2015 I posted:
While he has not yet publicly pressed to get Revelation 13:16-18 implemented, his background and interests show he is one who will likely understand enough technology to do so. (Thiel B. Europe eliminating remaining ‘bank secrecy’ as it gets closer to Revelation 13:16-18. October 22, 2015)
On November 20, 2015, he publicly took a step that, in my view, did it when he pushed for Germany to be a leader in data collection (see article in German, which also acknowledges that he is learning a lot about dealing with the USA: http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/karl-theodor-zu-guttenberg-arbeitet-jetzt-fuer-start-up-ripple-labs-a-980675.html)–here is information in English: Karl Guttenberg sees Germany as a potential leader in ‘data protection’).
Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg also has been involved in the digital money, as a consultant to Ripple. We made a sermonette video on our Bible News Prophecy YouTube channel about that:
American Express just announced a deal with Ripple related to using its blockchain technology. No longer confined to Bitcoin, blockchain technology is moving towards the mainstream. Former German Economic and later Defense Minister, Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg has long been an adviser to Ripple and has plans for internationally-expanding the use of blockchain money. Jim Rickards, Doug Casey, and others have expressed concerns that blockchain money will give governments too much control over buying and selling. Could any of this be related to biblical prophecies in the Books of Daniel and Revelation? Could any of this help fulfill the prophecies related to buying and selling and 666 in Revelation 13? Dr. Thiel addresses these issues and more.
Here is a link to our video: Blockchain, Karl Guttenberg, and 666.
Regarding AI, we put out the following video on our Bible News Prophecy YouTube channel:
Billionaire Elon Musk declared he was worried that artificial intelligence (AI) may lead to the rise of an “immortal dictator,” a “godlike” entity that could take over the world. Is this accurate, or at least, close in some ways? Does Bible prophecy foretell of the rise of an immoral leader who considers himself above all gods? Will this result in great destruction? What is AI? How might it fit in with various prophecies? Was the increase in technological knowledge we now have prophesied over 2000 years ago? Will 666 control over buying and selling involve any form of AI? Dr. Thiel goes over many scriptures, including prophetic ones, that involve human knowledge–which is the basis of AI. He also points out that when various prophesies were made, there was no technology capable of fulfilling them, but that because of computers, such ability exists now. Dr. Thiel also points out what Jesus will do about it.
Here is a link: Artificial Intelligence and Prophecy.
Yes, the Beast power will use some type of AI. Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg is now president of a firm heavily involved in it.
The Bible itself warns that a “prince” (Daniel 9:26-27) will become the “King of the North” (Daniel 11:31-40). So, since the Baron is a Habsburg descendant, he could well be considered as a prince, in a sense (but he is not generally officially considered to be royalty like a prince would be). And perhaps, he will only remain a prince. While is is not ruling over Europe at this time, he is influential there and seems to be taking steps related to European politics. He may well rise much further in time, with just a small number of supporters initially (cf. Daniel 11:23).
As regular readers of this COGwriter Church of God News page are aware, I have been covering Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg since late 2009 (see also Might German Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg become the King of the North?).
Here are eleven speculative predictions that Baron Guttenberg fulfilled after I posted and/or wrote about them:
- He has advocated more European military cooperation.
- He became unpopular for a time (and still is among many).
- He ended up, for a time, outside of political office.
- He went out of the limelight for a while.
- He went into exile (self-imposed).
- His exile was to a humid location.
- People laughed at him.
- He has partially re-emerged in European politics.
- He has called for Germany to consider being a leader in data protection.
- He now has a beard.
- His involvement with Ripple, blockchain, and AI could be setting him up to fulfill Revelation 13:15-18.
Now just because he at least partially fulfilled those does not prove that he must be the final King of the North. But they certainly give me reason, combined with biblical and other prophetic sources to consider that he could fulfill that role or at least aid the one who will have it.
The Baron is a charismatic leader that still yields influence in Germany, and also some in the European Union.
He is one to watch as he could be a factor in the rise of the European King of the North Beast power, even if he is not that individual himself.
Some items of possibly related interest may include:
Might German Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg become the King of the North? Is the former German Defense Minister (who is also the former German Minister for Economics and Technology) one to watch? What do Catholic, Byzantine, and biblical prophecies suggest? A video of related interest would be: Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg and Europe’s Future.
Blockchain, Karl Guttenberg, and 666 American Express just announced a deal with Ripple related to using its blockchain technology. No longer confined to Bitcoin, blockchain technology is moving towards the mainstream. Former German Economic and later Defense Minister, Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg has long been an adviser to Ripple and has plans for internationally-expanding the use of blockchain money. Jim Rickards, Doug Casey, and others have expressed concerns that blockchain money will give governments too much control over buying and selling. Could any of this be related to biblical prophecies in the Books of Daniel and Revelation? Could any of this help fulfill the prophecies related to buying and selling and 666 in Revelation 13? Dr. Thiel addresses these issues and more in this video. A related written article is also available: Amex launches blockchain-based business payments using Ripple: Prelude to the Beast and 666?
Who is the King of the North? Is there one? Do biblical and Roman Catholic prophecies for the Great Monarch point to the same leader? Should he be followed? Who will be the King of the North discussed in Daniel 11? Is a nuclear attack prophesied to happen to the English-speaking peoples of the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand? When do the 1335 days, 1290 days, and 1260 days (the time, times, and half a time) of Daniel 12 begin? When does the Bible show that economic collapse will affect the United States? In the Spanish language check out ¿Quién es el Rey del Norte? Here are links to two related videos: The King of the North is Alive: What to Look Out For and The Future King of the North.
The Great Monarch: Biblical and Catholic Prophecies Is the ‘Great Monarch’ of Catholic prophecies endorsed or condemned by the Bible? Two sermons of related interest are also available: Great Monarch: Messiah or False Christ? and Great Monarch in 50+ Beast Prophecies.
Europa, the Beast, and the Book of Revelation discusses the largest church since the second/third century, which in a real sense is the eighth church mentioned in the Book of Revelation (it also endorses “eighth day” worship). What church would support the Beast? Here is a link to a video titled: Europe and the ‘Holy Roman Empire’.
European Technology and the Beast of Revelation Will the coming European Beast power would use and develop technology that will result in the taking over of the USA and its Anglo-Saxon allies? Is this possible? What does the Bible teach? Here is a related YouTube video: Military Technology and the Beast of Revelation.
Does God Have a 6,000 Year Plan? What Year Does the 6,000 Years End? Was a 6000 year time allowed for humans to rule followed by a literal thousand year reign of Christ on Earth taught by the early Christians? Does God have 7,000 year plan? What year may the six thousand years of human rule end? When will Jesus return? 2027 or 20xx? There is also a video titled 6000 Years: When will God’s Kingdom Come? Here is a link to the article in Spanish: ¿Tiene Dios un plan de 6,000 años?
When Will the Great Tribulation Begin? 2020, 2021, or 2022? Can the Great Tribulation begin today? What happens before the Great Tribulation in the “beginning of sorrows”? What happens in the Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord? Is this the time of the Gentiles? When is the earliest that the Great Tribulation can begin? What is the Day of the Lord? Who are the 144,000? Here is a version of the article in the Spanish language: ¿Puede la Gran Tribulación comenzar en el 2020 o 2021? ¿Es el Tiempo de los Gentiles? You can also see the English language sermon videos: The Great Tribulation from the Mount of Olives and Can the Great Tribulation begin before 2020? A shorter and newer video is: Could the Great Tribulation Begin in 2020?
The Times of the Gentiles Has there been more than one time of the Gentiles? Are we in it now or in the time of Anglo-America? What will the final time of the Gentiles be like? A related sermon is available and is titled: The Times of the Gentiles.
Germany’s Assyrian Roots Throughout History Are the Germanic peoples descended from Asshur of the Bible? Have there been real Christians in Germanic history? What about the “Holy Roman Empire”? There is also a You-Tube video sermon on this titled Germany’s Biblical Origins.
Germany in Biblical and Catholic Prophecy Does Assyria in the Bible equate to an end time power inhabiting the area of the old Roman Empire? What does prophecy say Germany will do and what does it say will happen to most of the German people? Here is a version of the article in the Spanish language: Alemania en la profecía bíblic. Here are links to two English language sermon videos Germany in Bible Prophecy and The Rise of the Germanic Beast Power of Prophecy.
World War III: Steps in Progress Are there surprising actions going on now that are leading to WWIII? Might a nuclear attack be expected? Does the Bible promise protection to all or only some Christians? How can you be part of those that will be protected? A related video would be Is World War III About to Begin? Can You Escape?lmost any device: Please click HERE to download one of Amazon s Free Reader Apps. After you go to for your free Kindle reader and then go to Donald Trump and America’s Apocalypse-Kindle Edition.
Church of God Leaders on Prophets Have there been prophets throughout the church age? Are any supposed to be around in the last days? What have COG leaders stated or written about prophets? Here is a link to a related sermon: Church of God Leaders on Prophets.
How To Determine If Someone is a True Prophet of God There are many false prophets. How can Christians determine who is a true prophet? There is also a sermon-length video titled How to determine if someone is a true prophet of God. Here is a related link in Spanish/español: ¿Cómo determinar si alguien es un verdadero profeta de Dios?
Does the CCOG have the confirmed signs of Acts 2:17-18? Does any church have the confirmed dream and prophetic signs of Acts 2:17-18? Should one? Here is a link in the Spanish language: ¿Tiene la CCOG confirmadas las señales de Hechos 2: 17-18? Here is a link in the French language: Est-ce que l’Église Continue de Dieu confirme les signes d’Actes 2:17-18?
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