Karl zu Guttenberg Speaks of EU Leadership Need in Canada

Karl-Theodor von und zu Guttenberg
Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg

Baron Karl zu Guttenberg recently spoke in Canada:

German aristocrat and former conservative shooting star Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg made his first public appearance at an international security conference in Canada over the weekend, some nine months after a plagiarism scandal forced him to step down as a member of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s cabinet. http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,15545094,00.html

Speaking on Saturday at a security conference in Halifax, Canada, Guttenberg took aim at Germans in general and politicians in particular. “It is not a euro crisis or a debt crisis. It is above all a crisis of understanding and a crisis of political leadership,” he said. “The Germans have no idea how the European Union functions, how it came to this crisis and what it means. The politicians do not reach the public, they do not reach the people.”

Guttenberg was introduced to his audience with his latest title, “The honourable Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg, distinguished statesman, Centre for Strategic and International Studies”. http://www.thelocal.de/politics/20111120-38983.html

The above is interesting for several reasons, including something I posted about related to him in October 2010:

The Bible warns of a strong leader who will rise up in the area north of Jerusalem (like Europe) that will lead a confederation that does not stick well together (Daniel 2:42-43), like many of the nations of the European Union.

Continue reading on Examiner.com Guttenbergs rising: Might Europe turn to Karl Guttenberg? – Los Angeles Church History & End Prophecy | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/church-history-end-prophecy-in-los-angeles/guttenbergs-rising-might-europe-turn-to-karl-guttenberg#ixzz1eLwRvqwA

Here are 23 items to consider as to why Karl zu Guttenberg could possibly fill the role that he now seems to be advocating:

Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg is a leader from middle Europe and has a Franco-German/Assyrian bloodline.
He has a military background. The Beast of Revelation 13 is shown to be a military political leader.
He is considered to have some economic expertise.
He is an extremely popular politician (he was the most popular in Germany in early and late 2010).
He is considered an expert on foreign policy.
He was “Minister of Defence” for Germany.
He is some type of Catholic.
Because he is married to a Lutheran (and she apparently did not convert prior to marriage), he apparently is not super strict about being Catholic (some other news reports I have seen also seem to confirm this in other ways as well).
His wife also has political connections, and has made several public “morality statements”. Hence suggesting that the Guttenbergs represent the moral high ground in Germany.
He seems to have ecumenical tendencies, and that is what the “Great Monarch” of Catholic prophecies and the final Beast of Revelation would likely have.
He is a descendant of the Habsburg line of rulers (the Emperors of the Holy Roman Empire were from the Habsburg line).
He may be considered to be entitled to use the “King of Jerusalem” title that Otto von Habsburg held.
Charlemagne was a Frank-German leader and “Holy Roman Emperor”. Certain Catholic prophecies indicate that the “Great Monarch” will be a descendant of Charlemagne.
His blood line crosses into various countries in Europe (at least Germany, France, Austria, Liechtenstein, and Croatia).
He has the right to select the priest for his parish. Hence, the idea that political leaders should be involved with religion is something he was raised up believing. A leader combining church and state is prophesied in Daniel 11:37-38 and Revelation 13.
The understanding that his title means “Baron of the Holy Roman Empire” is interesting as the Book of Revelation describes a power that would resemble a re-emergence of “the Holy Roman Empire” and Catholic prophecy specifically tells of a time when “The Great King will be crowned Holy Roman Emperor by the reigning Pope” (Birch DA. Trial, Tribulation & Triumph: Before During and After Antichrist. Queenship Publishing Company, Goleta (CA), 1996,, p. 555).
The fact that he has been the most popular political leader in Germany suggests that he has a certain charisma that would be consistent with that which is expected for the final Beast leader (cf. Daniel 7:20,11:21-24,31; Revelation 13:3-5).
He is believed to careful cultivate his public image, which seems consistent with the cunning (Daniel 8:25) and other practices of the final Beast leader (Daniel 11:36-38).
Because a Catholic monarchist relative (Karl Ludwig Freiherr von und zu Guttenberg) of his was involved in a plot against Hitler in 1944 (and killed for it in April 1945), he may be perceived as less of a threat than others with a German background.
He is considered to be a smooth talking attractive leader.
Some of his entertainment actions suggest that beneath his exterior he may have certain “vile” tendencies (cf. Daniel 11:21). His plagiarism scandal seems consistent with this as well.
He is in a type of self-imposed exile and Catholic prophecy indicates that the Great Monarch is supposed to have a period of exile.
He has risen to powerful positions quite quickly. And may do that again.

To slightly expand on point 14, notice the following news account that suggests his wife’s attitude is that the state is above the Catholic church:

…Stephanie zu Guttenberg, the head of a leading child protection group and wife of Defence Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg, who called on the state to get tougher on abuse rather than leave it to the Church…Guttenberg, who is the German president of the anti-abuse group Innocence in Danger, said the state could not leave it to the Church alone to pursue abuse.

“Priests and clergymen are citizens of the Federeral {sic} Republic of Germany. And if a citizen here commits a crime, then that must be punished through the institutions of the state,” she told reporters at a fundraising event Monday evening. (Minister calls for abuse compensation. The Local: German News in English, 9 Mar 10. http://www.thelocal.de/national/20100309-25745.html viewed 03/09/10)

So, if Baron Guttenberg has a similar attitude to his wife, he may feel that the state has the obligation to be above the Catholic church–a view that seems consistent with one that the King of the North has (cf. Daniel 11:36-38).

If Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg is involved with a future Middle East peace deal and he establishes some type of new religious “Catholic” order, then it could very well be that he could be the final King of the North. But even if he is not, we are certainly living in times where a powerful leader in Europe will rise up–and that is something that he is now advocating.

When he became part of the Washington-based Centre for Strategic and International Studies, Baron Guttenberg acquired new contacts in the USA that he is likely to use politically in future. And since there is at least one major Israeli leader in the same think tank, this may influence him enough so that he possibly can fulfill the prophecies Daniel 9:26-27 (which he may do directly, or perhaps only through confirmation indirectly).

Whether he is the one or not the one to fulfill the biblical prophecies to be the final King of the North, I believe that the Baron’s scandal earlier this year and his current self-imposed ‘exile’ appear to be consistent with certain non-biblical prophecies about a leader commonly referred to as the Great Monarch and possibly biblical prophecies concerning the Beast, the final King of the North.

On the other hand, it is possible that Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg could simply be a normal politician, with ups and downs like many others. We will see.

Much is happening in the world, and a leader known as the final King of the North (or Beast) in Bible prophecy, will ultimately become the leader of Europe. And according to the Bible, he will have military abilities (Revelation 13:1-4) and apparently be popular and charismatic (cf. Daniel 7:20,11:21-24,31; Revelation 13:3-5).

Karl Guttenberg fulfills these requirements.

We all should watch (cf. Mark 13:37).

Some articles of possibly related interest may include:

Europa, the Beast, and Revelation Where did Europe get its name? What might Europe have to do with the Book of Revelation? What about “the Beast”?
Who is the King of the North? Is there one? Do biblical and Roman Catholic prophecies point to the same leader? Should he be followed? Who will be the King of the North discussed in Daniel 11? Is a nuclear attack prophesied to happen to the English-speaking peoples of the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand? When do the 1335 days, 1290 days, and 1260 days (the time, times, and half a time) of Daniel 12 begin? What MUST happen BEFORE the Great Tribulation?
Might German Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg become the King of the North? Is the German Defense Minister one to watch? What do Catholic, Byzantine, and biblical prophecies suggest?
Anglo – America in Prophecy & the Lost Tribes of Israel Are the Americans, Canadians, British, Scottish, Welsh, Australians, Anglo (non-Dutch) Southern Africans, and New Zealanders descendants of Joseph? Where are the lost ten-tribes of Israel? Who are the lost tribes of Israel? What will happen to Jerusalem and the Jews in Israel? Will God punish the U.S.A., Canada, United Kingdom, and other Anglo nations? Why might God allow them to be punished first?
Will the Anglo-Nations be Divided and Have People Taken as Slaves? Will the lands of the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand be divided? What about Jerusalem? What does Bible prophecy teach? Are there non-biblical prophecies that support this idea? Who will divide those lands? Who will end up with the lands and the people?
Canada in Prophecy: What Does Bible Prophecy, Catholic Prophecy, and other Predictions Suggest About the Future of Canada? There are prophecies that suggest involvement with Canada. And many are not positive about its future.