King Charles III coronation plan, scriptures, and more
(Artwork via Ray Comfort, verbiage from COG leader)
King Charles III is to be coronated on May 6th–this coming Saturday. The BBC put out the following related to it:
3 May 2023
Millions of people across the UK and beyond are preparing to celebrate the coronation of King Charles III – a symbolic ceremony combining a religious service and pageantry.
It is being held at Westminster Abbey on 6 May and the King, who will be crowned along with Camilla, the Queen Consort, will be the 40th reigning monarch crowned there since 1066.
The day of splendour and formality will feature customs dating back more than 1,000 years. … https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-65342840
Over a 1000 years ago, the crown and scepter as well as the coronation stone were in Scotland.
Back to the BBC article:
Westminster Abbey arrival
The procession is expected to arrive at the abbey shortly before 11:00, with the King likely to wear military uniform …
The King’s grandson, Prince George, will be among the pages at Westminster Abbey, alongside Camilla’s grandchildren, Lola, Eliza, Gus, Louis and Freddy. Some of those taking part in the procession inside the abbey will carry the regalia ahead of the King, with most items placed on the altar until needed in the ceremony.
What is the regalia?
The UK is, according to the Royal Family website, the only European country that still uses regalia – the symbols of royalty like the crown, orb and sceptres – in coronations.
As far as the ruling sceptre goes, it is supposed to be the one shown in the tweet at the below that Charles’ grandfather is shown holding.
There are just #3days until the Coronation.
The last King to be crowned in the UK was George VI. His Coronation was on May 12 1937.
His grandson, Charles III, will be crowned on May 6 2023.#crowncountdown pic.twitter.com/snF8DokKPp
— Coronation News & Updates (@Coronation2023) May 3, 2023
Notice something Moses was inspired to state and prophesy:
10 The scepter shall not depart from Judah, Nor a lawgiver from between his feet, Until Shiloh comes; And to Him shall be the obedience of the people. (Genesis 49:10)
The Bible shows that scepter came to David of Judah when he became king (cf. Numbers 24:17; 2 Samuel 8:2). Some who do not accept that the British Royal family can be holding that scepter have said that, “Until Shiloh comes” means Jesus’ first coming. However that is in error for three reasons.
The first is if that were the case, then where were the kings between Zedekiah (the last King of Judah) and Jesus? There were none.
And secondly, during His first coming, Jesus said His Kingdom was future (John 18:36), so He did not assume the throne then. Critics of what is known as British-Israelism do not seem to realize that and they wrongly rationalize away many scriptures. Jesus will sit on the throne of David in millennial the Kingdom of God.
And thirdly, note that Genesis 49:10 has to be a reference to the second coming of Jesus, as we did not see the obedience of the people given to Him during the first coming. Hence, biblically, there had to have been a royal succession from Judah’s line after Zedekiah until Jesus’ return.
Consider that through the prophet Nathan, God made a remarkable promise to King David:
12 “When your days are fulfilled and you rest with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who will come from your body, and I will establish his kingdom. 13 He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. … 15 But My mercy shall not depart from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I removed from before you. 16 And your house and your kingdom shall be established forever before you. Your throne shall be established forever. (2 Samuel 7:12-13, 15-16)
The throne was to be established forever—and it has been! And this is the throne Jesus will return to.
Scripture is plainly teaching that someone has had to have been on that throne since the time of the Zedekiah (a contemporary of Jeremiah), who was the last king of Judah in the Holy Land until Jesus returns to set up the millennial kingdom.
Since someone had to fill the regal role, we can see through historical records and legends that the royalty in the British Isles fits this.
The idea that “Christ upon His return, will take over David’s throne” was believed by those who held to many Church of God doctrines in Transylvania during the late Middle Ages; see also Die Sabbatharier in Siebenburgen.
The idea that Jesus would return to the throne of David is NOT a 19th, 20th, or 21st century invention.
This ‘throne of David’ doctrine is also taught in the New Testament:
31 … Jesus . 32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. (Luke 1:31-32)
28 So Jesus said to them, “Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” (Matthew 19:28)
Notice that these are still future prophecies. Jesus is not now on the throne of David and He will not be until the coming millennial Kingdom of God.
Therefore, until Jesus returns, someone needs to be on the throne—and the British Royal Family has an occupant to this day–King Charles III.
Back to the BBC article:
The recognition
King Charles will be presented to “the people” – a tradition dating back to Anglo-Saxon times. Standing beside the 700-year-old Coronation Chair, the King will turn to face the four sides of the abbey and be proclaimed the “undoubted King” …
The Coronation Chair, also known as St Edward’s Chair or King Edward’s Chair, is believed to be the oldest piece of furniture in the UK still used for its original purpose. A total of 26 monarchs have been crowned in it.
Here is an old photograph of the Coronation Chair with the Stone of Destiny in it:
Coronation chair with Stone of Destiny in Westminster Abby c. 1880
(Wikipedia)
My wife Joyce and I saw it with the stone in in back in 1993. The last time we were in Westminster Abby, we again saw the Coronation Chair, but the stone was not in it — it had been returned to Scotland.
Back to the BBC article:
St Edward’s Chair or Coronation Chair
It was originally made by order of England’s King Edward I to enclose the Stone of Destiny, …
The stone – an ancient symbol of Scotland’s monarchy – was returned to Scotland in 1996 but has been transferred back to London for use in the service.
Related to the stone, Here is some information related to British coronations in our free online book Lost Tribes and Prophecies: What will happen to Australia, the British Isles, Canada, Europe, New Zealand and the United States of America?:
Stone of Destiny
As far as the “stone of destiny” goes, my wife and I saw what reportedly is it back in 1993 when it was in the coronation throne in Westminster Abby. It was not there the last time we visited Westminster Abby (2019) as it is now stored in Scotland.
According to legend, it was the coronation stone used by the kings of Judah and some think it originally was Jacob’s. Jacob had used a pillar stone as a pillow, then anointed it with oil, and said he it would be “God’s house” (Genesis 28:18-22).
If that stone ended up in the first Temple under the Holy of Holies as some Jews claim,[i] then it was not the coronation stone of scripture as that was not out in public view (cf. Leviticus 16:1-19; Hebrews 9:7-8).
During the time of that temple, the Bible points to coronations being done at/on a pillar stone that was in public, so that would not be at the Holy of Holies:
12 … put upon him the crown and the insignia; and they made him king, and anointed him; and… 14 … behold, the king stood on the platform, as the manner was … (2 Kings 11:12,14, Jewish Publication Society)
12 … put the crown on him, and gave him the Testimony; they made him king and anointed him, and … 14 … there was the king standing by a pillar according to custom; (2 Kings 11:12,14, NKJV)
During the time of Jeremiah, King Josiah of Judah made a solemn covenant at what looks to be this very same stone (2 Kings 23:3).
Various ones have asserted that the coronation stone was brought to Ireland by Jeremiah and ended up in Scotland.[ii] Fergus, son of Erc, is claimed to have taken it from Ireland and brought it to Scotland.[iii] Some others claim that the true stone was actually kept in Ireland and a substitute was what was sent to Britain (but if so, no one seems know where it is). Some others say that King Edward took the wrong stone and there is one hidden in Scotland, but it has not been publicly revealed if that was the case. [iv]
The stone that currently is in Scotland, that King Edward I had taken from Scotland and brought to Westminster Abby in the late 1200s, is made from red sandstone, but does not look red at all. Some say it originated from Scone, Scotland and not from the Middle East—if so, then one or more of the transfer legends are in error. The reports that a stone was taken from Ireland to Scotland contradicts the Scottish origin of the stone, as others have noted.[v] Hence, the Scottish origin of the stone may not be a fact like some have asserted.[vi]
It may be of interest to note that there is red sandstone in Haran, where Jacob’s pillar stone originated, as well as many other places in the Middle East, including Petra. So, it may be possible that the stone in Scotland could have come from Jeremiah, but that is not dogma as we have not scientifically examined the stone ourselves to attempt to determine its original location.
However, it should be pointed out that the phallic stone currently at the Lia Fail on the Hill of Tara was not brought by Jeremiah. Legend says Tea Tephi removed an original phallic stone which was part of pagan worship.[vii] After the Stone of Destiny went to Britain or otherwise left the Hill of Tara, a phallic stone was put back there and is there now.[viii]
That is consistent with reports that there were two different origins of the Lia Fail. One is that Tuatha de Danann brought it from Germany and it is an ancient pagan symbol, and the other is that a Milesian leader brought it over from Spain.[ix] Since Tea Tephi reportedly came to Ireland via Spain,[x] that could explain both stones (and there could be more than two).
The following from the 19th century mentions Jeremiah and the stone:
We have seen a late work on prophecy gravely affirming that the Prophet Jeremiah died in Ireland, having been forced hither by the wandering sons of Ephraim. One of the few unquestionable facts connected with early Irish history, is the intercourse between Ireland and the Phoenicians, through Spain. The Israelitish settlers, according to the tradition, carried with them Jacob’s pillow or pillar, known as the Lia Fail or Stone of Destiny, which secured a perpetual monarchy to the people so happy as to possess it. This stone, at the crowning of the first king of the Scots in Scotland, was borrowed ….[xi]
The above legend is interesting as it looks to tie Ephraim in with the British Isles, and affirms the idea that Jeremiah also came to the isles. In the 43rd chapter of Jeremiah, Jeremiah is shown to be with the “king’s daughters” (Jeremiah 43:1-6), but nothing like the pillar stone is mentioned with them.
That said, King Charles is expected to be coronated on a throne that will contain the ‘Stone of Scone.’[xii]
[i] Vilnay Z. Legends of Jerusalem Volume 1. Jewish Publication Society, 1973, pp. 9-10
[ii] E.g. Plain Truth Staff. The Bible Answers Short Questions From Our Readers. Plain Truth Magazine July 1959; The Christian remembrancer; or, The Churchman’s Biblical, ecclesiastical & literary miscellany. 1864, p. 2
[iii] Poole WH. Anglo-Israel Or, The Saxon Race, Proved to be the Lost Tribes of Israel. W. Briggs, 1889, p. 501
[iv] Cartwright M. Stone of Scone. World History Encyclopedia, 2018.
[v] Ibid; Johnson B. The Stone of Destiny. Hiatoric UK, viewed 03/06/23.
[vi] Enfield L. The disputed history of the Coronation Stone. BBC, March 6, 2023
[vii] Yarrow S. The Legend of Teia Tephi, Queen of Ireland. http://www.pocketoz.com.au/colours/covenant_tephi.html accessed 08/12/22
[viii] Joyce PW. The Wonders of Ireland and Other Papers on Irish Subjects, Longmans, Green, and Company, 1911, p. 70
[ix] Petrie, pp. 161-162
[x] Petrie, p. 130
[xi] The Christian remembrancer; or, The Churchman’s Biblical, ecclesiastical & literary miscellany. 1864, p. 2
[xii] Enfield L. The disputed history of the Coronation Stone. BBC, March 6, 2023
Back to the BBC article:
The anointing
The King’s ceremonial robe will be removed and he will sit in the Coronation Chair to be anointed, emphasising the spiritual status of the sovereign who is also the head of the Church of England.
The archbishop will pour special oil from the Ampulla – a gold flask – on to the Coronation Spoon before anointing the King …
Here is some information related to British coronations and anointing in our free online book Lost Tribes and Prophecies: What will happen to Australia, the British Isles, Canada, Europe, New Zealand and the United States of America?:
In ancient times, God had the prophet Samuel anoint David to be king with oil from Israel (1 Samuel 16:1,13). Notice now a part of the ceremony for the coronation of Queen Elizabeth II back in 1953:
O Lord and heavenly Father, the exalter of the humble and the strength of thy chosen, who by anointing with Oil didst of old make and consecrate kings, priests, and prophets, to teach and govern thy people Israel: Bless and sanctify thy chosen servant ELIZABETH, who by our office and ministry is now to be anointed with this Oil, … And as Solomon was anointed king by Zadok the priest and Nathan the prophet, so be thou anointed, blessed, and consecrated Queen over the Peoples, whom the Lord thy God hath given thee to rule and govern,[i]
So, we see a tie in with governance, oil, Israel, David’s son Solomon and other biblical aspects. The ancient kings of Israel were anointed (1 Samuel 15:1; 1 Kings 1:34) with oil (1 Samuel 16:13). Scepters were long recognized in the Bible as a symbol for ruling (Genesis 49:10; Ezekiel 19:14) and one was given to the new Queen. Having all of these as part of a coronation ceremony may be more than a coincidence or simple imitation of what some saw in the Bible (some assert the basic ceremony originated with Bishop Dunstan of the 10th century, but it is difficult to know what was done earlier in Scotland or Ireland and if he had access to any related information).
Furthermore, the olive oil mixture to be used to anoint King Charles III was consecrated on the Mount of Olives which is adjacent to Jerusalem, and according to Justin Welby (the Archbishop of Canterbury), “ancient kings through to the present day, monarchs have been anointed with oil from this sacred place.” [ii] While those “ancient kings” referred to may only go back to Crusader times, it is possible that some anointing oil was originally brought to Ireland by Jeremiah and, in time, others decided to replenish it with an olive oil mixture from Jerusalem.
[i] Church of England. The Form and Order of the Service that is to be Performed and the Ceremonies that are to be Observed in the Coronation of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II in the Abbey Church of St. Peter Westminster on Tuesday the Second Day of June 1953. Eyre and Spottiswoode, 1953, pp. 12-13
[ii] Khalil h, Foster M. Holy oil to anoint King Charles III on his coronation, has been consecrated in Jerusalem. CNN, March 4, 2023
Back to the BBC article:
The investiture
Literally the crowning moment – when the King will wear St Edward’s Crown for the only time in his life.
The crown is named after a much earlier version made for the Anglo-Saxon king and saint, Edward the Confessor, and said to have been used at coronations after 1220 until Cromwell had it melted down.
It was made for King Charles II, who wanted a crown similar to the one worn by Edward but even grander.
Here is some information starting with a scripture related to the use of a crown by the kings of Judah and then related to the female part of Zedekiah’s royal family ending up in the British Isles from our free online book Lost Tribes and Prophecies: What will happen to Australia, the British Isles, Canada, Europe, New Zealand and the United States of America?:
12 … put the crown on him, and gave him the Testimony; they made him king and anointed him, and … 14 … there was the king standing by a pillar according to custom; (2 Kings 11:12,14, NKJV) …
That said, items related to Tea Tephia are consistent with some scriptures:
19 Therefore thus says the Lord God: “As I live, surely My oath which he despised, and My covenant which he broke, I will recompense on his own head. 20 I will spread My net over him, and he shall be taken in My snare. I will bring him to Babylon and try him there for the treason which he committed against Me. (Ezekiel 17:19-20)
Zedekiah despised God’s covenant and was taken to Babylon (2 Kings 25:7).
22 Thus says the Lord God: “I will take also one of the highest branches of the high cedar and set it out. I will crop off from the topmost of its young twigs a tender one, and will plant it on a high and prominent mountain. (Ezekiel 17:22)
The tender twig looks like a reference to a female descendant of Zedekiah. The late John Ogwyn said this is what this means and that this princess went to Ireland with Jeremiah, then married into the royal Zerah line, and healed the breach.[i] Raymond McNair concurred and wrote that the tender twig in Ezekiel 17:22 was Tea Tephi.[ii]
Consider also:
It may be curious here to remark that the Welsh people were sometimes called Taffes or Taphies, possibly from the city of Tahpanhes (Jer. 43:7) or in memory of Tephi, the daughter of Zedekiah, to whom their loyalty is acknowledged.[iii]
It appears that there are some linguistic and other connections. The impact of Semitic languages in Europe, including the British Isles has been noticed by more modern scholars as well.[iv]
Before going further, perhaps it should be mentioned that a naysaying critic in at least one somewhat slick “smooth talking” video from 2022 supposedly disproving British-Israelism claimed that there were no Hebrew linguistic connections to the British Isles and that Tea Tephi was someone who was made up by researcher Frederick Glover in the 19th century. That is false.
Teah/Tea Tephi herself is mentioned in an old Irish poem from the 6th century by Amergin (also spelled Amairgen) and is referred to as Queen in a ballad from the 11th century which was translated in the Annals of the Four Masters[v] by the 1630s. The 6th century poem says that Tea married Heremon.[vi] The 1024 ballad refers to the grave of Tea as also the tomb of Tephi, and also says, “Tephi, ‘the most beautiful.’”[vii]
Her name is not hard to pick up when you look at something like the original Gaelic text that Amergin used in the 6th century as put forth below:
Ꞇeα … Ꞇephι [viii]
Hence, it should be clear that Tea Tephi was not a 19th century invention.
While there are many points of view, in Tea Tephi’s case, the naysayer could have easily found her prior historical existence out (instead it looks like he got his view from Wikipedia, which had it wrong—and I helped correct it, though Wikipedia would not allow a full correction—despite receiving clear proving references). The following passage applies to many of that naysayer’s ilk:
16 The lazy man is wiser in his own eyes Than seven men who can answer sensibly. (Proverbs 26:16)
The use of smooth talkers against Christian leaders speaking truth even happened in New Testament times (Acts 24:1-8).
As far as possible biblical connections to the name Tephi, Solomon had a daughter named Taphath (1 Kings 4:11) also spelled Tephath (Brenton Septuagint Translation). Since ancient Hebrew did not have vowels, the fact that a female descent of Solomon had a name similar to Tephi would be consistent with it possibly being a derivative of the royal Hebrew name. …
Now, at least one critic has cited a mistranslation of some scriptures in the 21st chapter of Ezekiel as “proof” that the royal line died out in Judea and could not make it to the British Isles. Yet properly understood, the following supports the idea of the throne going away from Judea:
13 Because [it is] a trier {trial}, And what if it is even despising the scepter? It will not be, a declaration of Lord YHWH. … 26 Thus said Lord YHWH: Turn aside the turban, and carry away the crown, This—not this—make high the low, And make low the high. 27 An overturn, overturn, overturn, I make it, Also this has not been until the coming of Him, Whose [is] the judgment, and I have given it. (Ezekiel 21:13,26-27, Literal Standard Version)
Notice that literally translated verse 26 says that the crown will be carried away—and it was—eventually to the British Isles.
This Davidic dynasty continued, but was overturned from Judea through Tea Tephia, whose descendants became kings of Ireland. It was overturned and transplanted again in Scotland. It was overturned again and moved to London, England, where this same dynasty continues today in the reign of King Charles III.
[i] Ogwyn J. Lesson 49 – Major Prophets Ezekiel 17-32. Bible Study Series Date: May 7, 2002
[ii] McNair, Key to Northwest Origins, pp. 88-89
[iii] Spencer, p. 97
[iv] e.g. Klyosov AA, Tomezzol GT. DNA Genealogy and Linguistics. Ancient Europe. Advances in Anthropology, 2013. Vol.3, No.2, 101-111
[v] McDonald RH. The Hill of Tara. Journal of the British Archaeological Association, Volume 1. 1895, pp. 274-275
[vi] Ibid, p. 274, Petrie pp. 129-136
[vii] McDonald, p. 275
[viii] Petrie, pp. 130-136 has Amergin’s poem in Gaelic
Back to the BBC article:
The enthronement
The final part of the ceremony will see the King take the throne.
You can see a listing of kings from the time of King David through to King Charles III in our free online book Lost Tribes and Prophecies: What will happen to Australia, the British Isles, Canada, Europe, New Zealand and the United States of America?
The Continuing Church of God put together the two sermons on its ContinuingCOG channel related to aspects of this. Here is the first:
The BBC, the UK Guardian, and Buckingham Palace reported various preparations for the planned May 6, 2023 coronation of King Charles III. In March 2023, oil from the Mount of Olives was consecrated for this ceremony. The Stone of Destiny, also called the Stone of Scone, is to leave Scotland to be placed in the coronation chair in Westminster Abby for the coronation. Can any of this possibly have any connections to biblical prophecies about Judah having the sceptre, the throne of David always having an occupant, the prophet Jeremiah, Tea Tephi of Ireland, the lines of Pharez & Zerah, and the end time fate of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland? Is there an unbroken line of monarchs from Judah’s King David through to King Charles III? Does Charles have any connection to the World Economic Forum or the ‘Great Reset’? Could he or others in the Royal Family possibly be involved in fulfilling numerous prophecies in the Book of Hosea? What about the scarlet thread and the “red hand of Ulster’? Did Charles or other members of the Royal Family believe in any version of British-Israelism?
Here is a link to our sermon: King Charles III Coronation and Prophecy.
Here is our latest sermon:
Many claim that they have “refuted” or somehow disproved what is often called “British-Israelism” or “Anglo-Israelism.” Do you believe the word of God over humans? Are secular, Protestant, and other critics right to dismiss the idea that God made promises to the twelve tribes of Israel that have been fulfilled in the past few centuries? Were the last days/end of days prophecies fulfilled over 2000 years ago? If not, were does history point to for their fulfillment? Is there a tie between the belief in British-Israelism and the Kingdom of God? Is there really a difference between the Jews and the so-called “ten lost tribes of Israel”? Do prophecies in the books of Genesis, Deuteronomy, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Amos, etc. support British-Israelism? Does DNA evidence prove or disprove British-Israelism? Could the British have descended from Joseph’s son Ephraim and those who came to the land which became the USA from Joseph’s son Manasseh? What about many of the Germans who came to the Americas? Was Teah Tephi a 19th century invention of Frederick Glover? Could Jeremiah have been in Ireland? Is there a list of descendants on the throne of David from his time to King Charles III? Was there a gap of kings on the throne of David between the death of King Zedekiah and Jesus–if not, where was that throne? Is Jesus going to assume the throne of David? Are there biblical ties to some of the peoples known as Scythians? Were there three overturnings of the location of the throne from Jerusalem to Ireland to Scotland to England/Great Britain? What about the coronation ceremony, Solomon, Nathan the prophet, and anointing oil? Was the British Empire not only a company of nations, but the biggest land empire in human history? Did the USA become a great nation? Do you believe that God can make all things He promised come to pass? What about tribes of Zebulun, Naphtali, Issachar, Judah, Dan, Reuben, Simeon, etc.? What about the Stone of Scone? Dr. Thiel cites numerous scriptures, historical evidence, and even legends to demonstrate yes, properly British-Israelism is something that people who will truly believe the Bible over opinions of humans will accept.
Here is a link to the sermon: Refuting British Israelism Critics.
Anyway, I expect to make some updates to our free online book, Lost Tribes and Prophecies: What will happen to Australia, the British Isles, Canada, Europe, New Zealand and the United States of America?, after the coronation as there are some items that may be included from it in the book before we print it.
Some items of possibly related interest may include:
Lost Tribes and Prophecies: What will happen to Australia, the British Isles, Canada, Europe, New Zealand and the United States of America? Where did those people come from? Can you totally rely on DNA? What about other peoples? Do you really know what will happen to Europe and the English-speaking peoples? What about Africa, Asia, South America, and the Islands? This free online book provides scriptural, scientific, historical references, and commentary to address those matters. Here are links to related sermons: Lost tribes, the Bible, and DNA; Lost tribes, prophecies, and identifications; 11 Tribes, 144,000, and Multitudes; Israel, Jeremiah, Tea Tephi, and British Royalty; Gentile European Beast; Royal Succession, Samaria, and Prophecies; Asia, Islands, Latin America, Africa, and Armageddon; When Will the End of the Age Come?; Rise of the Prophesied King of the North, and Christian Persecution from the Beast; WWIII and the Coming New World Order; Woes, WWIV, and the Good News of the Kingdom of God and Refuting British-Israelism Critics.
British are the Covenant People What do ‘British’ and ‘Britain’ mean in Hebrew? Are the descendants of the Anglo-Saxons people of the covenant? Does the British royal family connect to the throne of David? What does the Bible teach? What does history show us? Is there any DNA evidence related to British-Israelism? When did Christianity make it to the British Isles? Could Jeremiah have made it to the British Isles? What type of Christians made it to the British Isles? Did the last King of England believe in British Israelism?
The King’s Pedigree This is an article published by the Otago Witness in 1902 related to connections of the British Throne to the throne of King David of Israel. This also has some modern commentary inserted in italics.
THE QUEEN’S ROYAL DESCENT FROM KING DAVID THE PSALMIST This is a listing from Adam to the Kings of Judah through Queen Victoria put together in the 19th century. A list from 19th century to present is also included.
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