Tentative ‘budget’ deal does not agree with what 9 of 10 Americans claim to want

“I will break the pride of your power” (Leviticus 26:19)

In the USA, a tentative ‘budget’ deal has been proposed to attempt to prevent a partial shutdown of aspects of the federal government:

October 27, 2015

Congressional leaders have reached a tentative deal with the Obama administration on a government spending plan that could avoid another contentious budget standoff between the White House and hardline conservative Republicans.

The agreement is the result of weeks of negotiations led by House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, the leaders of the Republican-led House and Senate, plus House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic head Harry Reid.

The plan would fully fund the federal government and extend the government’s debt ceiling, or borrowing authority, through March 2017, two months after President Barack Obama leaves office. The plan boosts spending for both military and domestic programs by about $50 billion in 2016, and another $30 billion in 2017, as well as an extra $16 billion a year for the Pentagon’s overseas war fighting budget. The extra funding lifts the automatic spending limits imposed by Congress under a 2011 budget deal.

The extra spending would be offset by long-term savings to the Social Security Disability Insurance program and a cap on payments to health care providers by Medicare, the federal government’s health insurance program for elderly Americans.

The plan must be approved by the House and Senate and signed by the president before next Tuesday, November 3, when the government’s current borrowing authority expires and the nation faces a first-ever default on its debt obligations. Congressional leaders would then enter into negotiations to determine how to fund individual government agencies before December 11, when a temporary spending plan expires. http://www.voanews.com/content/congress-white-house-reach-deal-on-spending-plan/3024422.html

Notice that this proposal eliminates the ‘limits’ agreed to in 2011. In other words, the previous discussions and deals that the US government has made to supposedly lower the debt are out the window and debt will continue to increase.

Last night, WND had the following:

A stunning 9 of 10 respondents to a new poll say the federal government should be “forced” to live within its income and operate with a balanced budget.

And even more startling is the result that more than 75 percent say they would be more likely to “support a presidential candidate who pledged to shut down the government temporarily, if necessary, to stop borrowing and bring spending in line with tax revenue.”

The results are from a WND/Clout poll by Clout Research, a national opinion research firm in Columbus, Ohio. The telephone survey Oct. 15-19, had a margin of error of plus or minus 3.43 percentage points.

Asked whether you “agree or disagree that the federal government should be forced to live within its means and operate with a balanced budget,” 82.9 percent of the respondents said they “strongly agree.” Another 10.7 percent said they somewhat agree.

The combined total for Republican respondents was 94.3 percent, for independents 93 percent and for Democrats, who leaned more heavily to “somewhat agree,” 85.7 percent.

Eighty-three percent of Republicans nationwide said they are very concerned about the national debt, which now exceeds $18.4 trillion.

More than 92 percent were very concerned or somewhat concerned about the level of debt for every man, woman and child in America, and 82 percent of respondents oppose raising the debt ceiling again.

Respondents also had little expectation that the federal budget will balance within their lifetimes. http://www.wnd.com/2015/10/9-in-10-force-government-to-live-within-income/#hYK1yTOmQAUjIQHV.99

The deficit keeps going up which means increased debt and increased risk of destruction for the USA. Notice that most surveyed did NOT want a budget deal that has the federal government spending more than it takes in. Yet, that is precisely what the tentative deal that has been proposed will do.

Ultimately, the USA dollar will fall and be worth no more than the scrap value of its cotton-paper. Although many have pride that the USA dollar will stand, that is a misplaced pride.

US President Barack Obama once called the deficit spending ‘unsustainable,’ yet the total debt of the USA has doubled since he took office. WND seems to think that someone like Ben Carson is the solution:

For Republicans, the total was 78.1 percent, for independents 78.5 percent and for Democrats 17.8 percent.

“GOP sentiment on the debt reflects that Washington is out of control and needs a strong dose of restraint,” explained Clout Research partner Fritz Wenzel.

“The poll shows there is little confidence that under the current circumstances things will change, but they clearly favor strong medicine for the federal government. Right now, strong political medicine is being offered by a collection of outsider presidential candidates who are vying for the GOP nomination, and nationally, Republican voters are responding quite favorably towards Donald Trump, Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina. http://www.wnd.com/2015/10/9-in-10-force-government-to-live-within-income/#hYK1yTOmQAUjIQHV.99

While Ben Carson has proposed what may be the boldest first day step to try to deal with the debt of other candidates (see SDA Ben Carson on his first move ‘to save America’ if elected US President), he of himself is not the solution. While he and others possibly could slow down the debt increase, ultimately I believe that the USA will ultimately be considered bankrupt by other world governments, and that they will take military steps. The corruption in the USA has gone too deep (see Is the USA now an Evil Empire? and/or watch a related video: Is the USA an Evil Empire?)

The Bible, in the Book of Habakkuk teaches the following about debt in general and end time debt in particular:

3 For the vision is yet for an appointed time; But at the end it will speak, and it will not lie. Though it tarries, wait for it; Because it will surely come, It will not tarry…5 Indeed, because he transgresses by wine, He is a proud man… 6 “Will not all these take up a proverb against him, And a taunting riddle against him, and say, ‘Woe to him who increases What is not his–how long? And to him who loads himself with many pledges’? 7 Will not your creditors rise up suddenly? Will they not awaken who oppress you? And you will become their booty. 8 Because you have plundered many nations, All the remnant of the people shall plunder you (Habakkuk 2:3,5,6-8).

Actually, with an admitted $18+ trillion dollar debt and plans to increase that much further, the USA has increased pledges more than any nation in the history of the planet. And on a per capita basis, the United Kingdom is one of the most indebted nations on the earth itself.

Since the above prophecy in Habakkuk will be fulfilled at the time of the end (cf. “The message was true, but the appointed time was long…in the latter days, for the vision refers to many days yet to come”, Daniel 10:1,14). Daniel 8:19, 11:27,29,35 use the same the Hebrew term for “appointed time” as Habakkuk 2:3, while Daniel 10, using a different term, ties the latter days to the time in Daniel 8:19. Habakkuk 2 was not fulfilled in its entirety anciently. The USA is seemingly working to be the main party that Habakkuk 2 is referring to (see also Habakkuk: His message is for us now).

Unless the USA changes, it will be doomed. The debt of the USA will be a factor that will trigger the Great Tribulation! Even with its strong military, the Bible shows it will be taken over (Daniel 11:39).

However, Jesus will return a few years after that and establish the Kingdom of God.

During the millennial reign, there will be no highly questionable budget proposals then either.

Some items of possibly related interest may include the following:

Is the USA now an Evil Empire? Dr. Thiel gives many reasons to consider. A related video is also available: Is the USA an Evil Empire?
Did The Early Church Teach Millenarianism? Was the millennium (sometimes called chiliasm) taught by early Christians? Who condemned it? Will Jesus literally reign for 1000 years on the earth? Is this time near? Two related sermons are available Millennial Utopia and The Millennium.
Does God Have a 6,000 Year Plan? What Year Does the 6,000 Years End? Was a 6000 year time allowed for humans to rule followed by a literal thousand year reign of Christ on Earth taught by the early Christians? Does God have 7,000 year plan? What year may the six thousand years of human rule end? When will Jesus return? 2023 or 20xx? There is also a video titled The 6000 Year Plan: Is the end of humanity’s reign almost up? Here is a link to the article in Spanish: ¿Tiene Dios un plan de 6,000 años?
When Will the Great Tribulation Begin? 2015, 2016, or 2017? Can the Great Tribulation begin today? What happens before the Great Tribulation in the “beginning of sorrows”? What happens in the Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord? Is this the time of the Gentiles? When is the earliest that the Great Tribulation can begin? What is the Day of the Lord? Who are the 144,000? Here is a version of the article in the Spanish language: ¿Puede comenzar la Gran Tribulación en 2014 o 2015? ¿Es el Tiempo de los Gentiles? You can also see the English language sermon video: The Great Tribulation from the Mount of Olives.
Anglo – America in Prophecy & the Lost Tribes of Israel Are the Americans, Canadians, English, Scottish, Welsh, Australians, Anglo-Saxon (non-Dutch) Southern Africans, and New Zealanders descendants of Joseph? Where are the lost ten-tribes of Israel? Who are the lost tribes of Israel? What will happen to Jerusalem and the Jews in Israel? Will God punish the U.S.A., Canada, United Kingdom, and other Anglo-Saxon nations? Why might God allow them to be punished first? Here is a link to the Spanish version of this article: Anglo-América & las Tribus Perdidas de Israel. Information is also in the YouTube sermons titled Where are the Ten Lost Tribes? Why does it matter? and British are the Covenant People. A short YouTube of prophetic interest may be Barack Obama and the State of the Apocalypse.
Will the Anglo-Saxon Nations be Divided and Have People Taken as Slaves? Will the lands of the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand be divided? What about Jerusalem? What does Bible prophecy teach? Are there non-biblical prophecies that support this idea? Who will divide those lands? Who will end up with the lands and the people? Here is a link to a video titled Will the USA and other Anglo-nations be Divided and Their People Made Slaves? Here is a related item in the Spanish language ¿Serán divididas las naciones anglosajonas?
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Taxes What caused the descendants of Israel to pay taxes? Should Christians pay taxes? Here is a link to a YouTube video Should Christians Pay Taxes?
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