Trump inquisition changing with House impeachment rule vote
The famous Spanish Inquisition was basically conducted behind closed doors and based on a lot of biased and hear-say materials.
In the USA, that type of thing is not supposed to happen.
Wikipedia has the following:
The Confrontation Clause of the Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that “in all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right…to be confronted with the witnesses against him.” Generally, the right is to have a face-to-face confrontation with witnesses who are offering testimonial evidence against the accused in the form of cross-examination during a trial. The Fourteenth Amendment makes the right to confrontation applicable to the states and not just the federal government. The right only applies to criminal prosecutions, not civil cases or other proceedings.
The Confrontation Clause has its roots in both English common law, protecting the right of cross-examination, and Roman law, which guaranteed persons accused of a crime the right to look their accusers in the eye. In noting the right’s long history, the United States Supreme Court has cited Acts of the Apostles 25:16, which reports the Roman governor Porcius Festus, discussing the proper treatment of his prisoner Paul: “It is not the manner of the Romans to deliver any man up to die before the accused has met his accusers face-to-face, and has been given a chance to defend himself against the charges.” It is also cited in Shakespeare’s Richard II, Blackstone‘s treatises, and statutes. (Confrontation Clause, Wikipedia, accessed 10/31/19)
It is interesting that scripture has been cited to back up the right to face accusers.
And while courts have tended to consider this clause is only applicable for criminal prosecutions, in the USA, presidents are only supposed to be impeached for what sounds a lot like crimes. Notice Section 4 of Article Two of the United States Constitution:
“The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”
Today there was a vote in the House of Representatives related to having a controlled, but somewhat more open, impeachment investigation:
October 31, 2019
The Democratic-controlled U.S. House of Representatives voted Thursday to authorize a public impeachment inquiry targeting President Donald Trump after weeks of testimony behind closed doors about his efforts to push Ukraine to investigate his political opponents.
The vote was along party lines, 232-196 for the impeachment inquiry, with all Republicans against the resolution and two Democratic defectors joining them.
Immediately after the vote, Trump called the impeachment inquiry, “The Greatest Witch Hunt In American History!” in a tweet.
White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham issued a statement saying the president “has done nothing wrong” and calling the process “unfair, unconstitutional, and fundamentally un-American.”
“Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats’ unhinged obsession with this illegitimate impeachment proceeding does not hurt President Trump; it hurts the American people,” she said.
House Speaker Pelosi had long opposed opening an impeachment inquiry, but has turned sharply against Trump and called for passage of the impeachment rules. As debate opened Thursday, she said “nobody” comes to Congress to impeach a president, “unless his actions are jeopardizing us honoring our oath of office.”
“Sadly, this is not any cause for any glee or comfort,” she said. “This is something that is very solemn.”
Republicans had for weeks demanded that the majority Democrats hold a vote to authorize the impeachment probe against the Republican president, but as the vote neared they attacked it as an attempt to justify what they contend are sham hearings that have already been held. https://www.voanews.com/usa/impeachment-inquiry/us-house-votes-formally-open-impeachment-inquiry-targeting-trump
Although the House of Representatives have been looking into impeachment against Donald Trump for some time, and somewhat officially opened up an impeachment inquiry (without a vote taking place) against him about five weeks ago (see Donald Trump impeachment and USA hypocrisy), until the rules in today’s vote Republican members of the House, in many ways, were not allowed to be directly involved with the impeachment inquiry. Nor has Donald Trump had the right to face his accusers (or even know who one or more are).
Some believe that Democrat Adam Schiff (who has been leading a lot of the behind closed door investigations) has been essentially coaching witnesses in order to get the type of testimony that he wants. Notice the following:
October 30, 2019
Rep. Devin Nunes accused House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff of “coaching” the witness during Tuesday’s closed-door deposition.
Nunes, the top Republican on the panel, told Fox News host Sean Hannity that Democrats reached a new low in the impeachment fight when Schiff “continually” interrupted his GOP colleagues as they tried to question Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman.
“They’ve been bad at most of these depositions, but to interrupt us continually to coach the witness, to decide … what we’re going to be able to ask the witness,” the California Republican said.
In another swipe at Schiff, Nunes said his Democratic counterpart is “very good at coaching witnesses.” He added that Schiff has “met” the whistleblower, although it has only been reported the whistleblower met with a House Intelligence Committee aide seeking guidance before filing a complaint, and Schiff knew about it but never informed his GOP colleagues. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/devin-nunes-accuses-adam-schiff-of-coaching-trump-impeachment-witness
That reminds me of the Spanish Inquisition as it certainly was not impartial.
Presuming that Adam Schiff is not impartial (and there is a lot of evidence that he is not), this is further showing a violation of the US Constitution:
Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
Now those in favor of impeachment are claiming that their intent is to protect the US Constitution. Well, the way they have gone about it so far shows an unwillingness to go along with the intent of various parts of it.
What is going on is far from impartial. It is hypocritical.
The KJV has the following warning:
5 O Assyrian, the rod of mine anger, and the staff in their hand is mine indignation.
6 I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets. (Isaiah 10:5-6)
The above prophecy involves a German-dominated Europe being used by God to punish the USA (more details about why that is so are in the articles Germany in Biblical and Catholic Prophecy and Anglo – America in Prophecy & the Lost Tribes of Israel).
A place called “an hypocritical nation” (or “ungodly nation” or “profane nation” as some other translations render it) is the one getting punished.
Now consider that Donald Trump was investigated for obstruction of justice related to collusion. He was not found guilty of collusion. While a case for obstruction can be made, many seem to forget that president, Bill Clinton lied to the American people, lied to Congress, and interfered with one or more witnesses regarding his sexual improprieties–he was clearly guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice. Impeachment proceedings were began, and approved, in the House of Representatives. However, all of the Democrats in the Senate (and some Republicans) voted for acquittal on both the perjury and the obstruction of justice charges, despite Bill Clinton being guilty.
Notice what Nancy Pelosi said about the impeachment proceedings against Bill Clinton in 1998:
“We are here today because the Republicans in the House are paralyzed with hatred of President Clinton, and until the Republicans free themselves of that hatred our country will suffer”
The USA has been suffering from statements from Donald Trump, as well as investigations of Donald Trump, the past few years. The current impeachment inquiries are mainly about hate and politics.
And the way the “investigations” have been conducted seem to be more like an inquisition.
For two years, Donald Trump was subject to a special counsel investigation for colluding with the Russians. He was not found to be guilty of that. There is much greater evidence that Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation were guilty of peddling foreign influence, but thus far that has been dismissed by the media and many politicians. For the past couple of years, we have seen the media decrying what it calls Russian interference in the USA election process. But the USA has a history of trying to interfere with elections and governments around the world. More hypocrisy.
As far as calls for Donald Trump’s impeachment, notice something I had published a day or so before he took office:
There are issues with what Donald Trump says when he speaks. I expect people will call for his impeachment. (Thiel B. Donald Trump and America’s Apocalypse. Nazarene Books, 2017, p. 41)
That being said, Donald Trump has said and done many inappropriate things that no morally-thinking person would defend. Nor would I characterize his telephone conversation with the Ukrainian President as “perfect” like Donald Trump has repeatedly claimed.
A major problem, however, is that many politicians, pundits, and others have less interest in the truth and more interest in pushing political goals than they should.
National repentance is needed.
The Bible shows that the power with the strongest military (which currently is the USA) will be taken over by a European power according to Daniel 11:39 (for more details, see USA in Prophecy: The Strongest Fortresses).
The Book of Isaiah indicates that hypocrisy (and/or acting ungodly) will be part of the reason why.
While political hypocrisy is a problem around the world, in the past several years the blatantness of it is becoming more and more obvious in the USA.
It is so blatant that hopefully more can now see that the prophecy for destruction related to “a hypocritical nation” is a reference to the USA.
While your nation probably will not repent (American or otherwise), you can.
Do not wait until it is too late (cf. Acts 17:30; Zephaniah 2:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 5:3).
Several items of possibly related interest may include:
Should a Christian Vote? This article gives some of the Biblical rationale on this subject. Would Jesus vote for president/prime minister? Is voting in the Bible? This is a subject Christians need to understand. A video of related interest is available titled: Should Christians Vote? Another video is Sorry state of the 2020 presidential campaign.
The Spanish Inquisition and Early Protestant Persecutions Was the Church of Rome really responsible for this? What happened? A video of related interest is titled: The Past and Future Inquisition.
Is God Calling You? This booklet discusses topics including calling, election, and selection. If God is calling you, how will you respond? Here is a link to a related sermon: Could God be Calling You? A short animation is also available: Is God Calling You?
Christian Repentance Do you know what repentance is? Is it really necessary for salvation? A related sermon is also available titled: Real Christian Repentance.
Just What Do You Mean — Repentance? Do you know what repentance is? Have you truly repented? Repented of what? Herbert W. Armstrong wrote this as a booklet on this important subject.
When You Sin: Do You Really Repent? This is an article by Charles F. Hunting. A related sermon is Confess to God and truly repent.
Do Christians Sin? This is an article by Herbert W. Armstrong.
Overcoming Sin What is sin? How are Christians suppose to overcome it? Here is a link to a version in Mandarin Chinese: QKg f/‘͉v„. Here is a link to a version in Spanish: Vencer al pecado. Here is also a link to a video in English titled How YOU Can Overcome Sin.
USA in Prophecy: The Strongest Fortresses Can you point to scriptures, like Daniel 11:39, that point to the USA in the 21st century? This article does. A related sermon is titled: Do these 7 prophesies point to the end of the USA?
19 items to prophetically watch in 2019 Much is happening. Dr. Thiel points to 19 items to watch (cf. Mark 13:37), plus another, in this article. Here is a link to a related sermon: 19 items to watch in 2019.
Who is the King of the West? Why is there no Final End-Time King of the West in Bible Prophecy? Is the United States the King of the West? Here is a version in the Spanish language: ¿Quién es el Rey del Occidente? ¿Por qué no hay un Rey del Occidente en la profecía del tiempo del fin? A related sermon is also available: The Bible, the USA, and the King of the West.
Anglo – America in Prophecy & the Lost Tribes of Israel Are the Americans, Canadians, English, Scottish, Welsh, Australians, Anglo-Saxon (non-Dutch) Southern Africans, and New Zealanders descendants of Joseph? Where are the lost ten-tribes of Israel? Who are the lost tribes of Israel? What will happen to Jerusalem and the Jews in Israel? Will God punish the U.S.A., Canada, United Kingdom, and other Anglo-Saxon nations? Why might God allow them to be punished first? Here is a link to the Spanish version of this article: Anglo-América & las Tribus Perdidas de Israel. A video of possible interest may be Will Will USA Spying Help the Beast Power?
Will the Anglo-Saxon-Celtic Nations be Divided and Have People Taken as Slaves? Will the lands of the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand be divided? What about Jerusalem? What does Bible prophecy teach? Are there non-biblical prophecies that support this idea? Who will divide those lands? Who will end up with the lands and the people? Here is a link to a video titled Will the USA and other Anglo-nations be Divided and Their People Made Slaves? Here is a related item in the Spanish language ¿Serán divididas las naciones anglosajonas?
WTO/TTIP and the Babylonian Beast Will international trade agreements like WTO/TTIP/CETA lead to the fulfillment of end time prophecies concerning the Babylonian Beast power that the Book of Revelation warns against? What does the Bible teach? A related video would be WTO Trade Deal and the Rise of the European Beast Power.
Does God Have a 6,000 Year Plan? What Year Does the 6,000 Years End? Was a 6000 year time allowed for humans to rule followed by a literal thousand year reign of Christ on Earth taught by the early Christians? Does God have 7,000 year plan? What year may the six thousand years of human rule end? When will Jesus return? 2027 or 20xx? There is also a video titled 6000 Years: When will God’s Kingdom Come? Here is a link to the article in Spanish: ¿Tiene Dios un plan de 6,000 años?
When Will the Great Tribulation Begin? 2019, 2020, or 2021? Can the Great Tribulation begin today? What happens before the Great Tribulation in the “beginning of sorrows”? What happens in the Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord? Is this the time of the Gentiles? When is the earliest that the Great Tribulation can begin? What is the Day of the Lord? Who are the 144,000? Here is a version of the article in the Spanish language: ¿Puede comenzar la Gran Tribulación en 2018 o 2019? ¿Es el Tiempo de los Gentiles? You can also see the English language sermon videos: The Great Tribulation from the Mount of Olives and Can the Great Tribulation begin before 2020? A shorter and newer video is: Might the Great Tribulation start in 2019?
The Times of the Gentiles Has there been more than one time of the Gentiles? Are we in it now or in the time of Anglo-America? What will the final time of the Gentiles be like? A related sermon is available and is titled: The Times of the Gentiles.
Armageddon Who is involved and when will this gathering happen? Here is also a video from Dr. Thiel, from Tel Megiddo in Israel: Armageddon. Other videos include: Armageddon Will it come on Trump’s watch?, Iraq, Armageddon, & Prophecy, Freemasonry, Armageddon, and Rome, Is China paving roads to Armageddon?, and Jordan, Petra, and Armageddon.
Is God Calling You? This booklet discusses topics including calling, election, and selection. If God is calling you, how will you respond? Here is a link to a related sermon: Could God be Calling You? A short animation is also available: Is God Calling You?
Christian Repentance Do you know what repentance is? Is it really necessary for salvation? A related sermon is also available titled: Real Christian Repentance.
Donald Trump in Prophecy Prophecy, Donald Trump? Are there prophecies that Donald Trump may fulfill? Are there any prophecies that he has already helped fulfill? Is a Donald Trump presidency proving to be apocalyptic? Two related videos are available: Donald: ‘Trump of God’ or Apocalyptic? and Donald Trump’s Prophetic Presidency.
Trump Presidency Magic 8 Ball or Bible Prophecy? BBC reported that one might as well use a ‘Magic Eight-Ball’ to try to predict what will happen in the remaining time of Donald Trump’s presidency. What is a ‘Magic Eight-Ball’? Dr. Thiel not only explains that, but also briefly goes over 10 biblically-based warnings he wrote would happen if Donald Trump were elected that have already began to come to pass. He also goes over something he wrote back in 2008 that the Trump presidency is also helping lead to fulfillment. Should you trust Bible prophecy or not? Dr. Thiel says that Bible prophecy can be trusted, despite the view of skeptics and others that either overlook or despise the Bible. This is a video.
Donald Trump and America’s Apocalypse This 188 page book is for people truly interested in prophecies related to Donald Trump and the United States, including learning about several that have already been fulfilled and those that will be fulfilled in the future. The physical book can be purchased at Amazon for $12.99 from the following link: Donald Trump and America’s Apocalypse.
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