UK’s Cameron claims he will not pay EU ‘surcharge;’ Nigel Farage disagrees

The European Union has asked the UK to give over USD$2,000,000,000 in a ‘surcharge December 1, 2014 and the UK’s Prime Minister says he will not pay it:

October 24, 2014

David Cameron has angrily insisted the UK will not pay a £1.7bn bill demanded by the European Union by 1 December.

“If people think I am paying that bill on 1 December, they have another thing coming,” the prime minister told reporters in Brussels.

He said the EU demand was “totally unacceptable” and no way for the organisation to behave – and he want to examine how they arrived at the amount.

EU finance ministers have agreed to the UK’s request for emergency talks.

Mr Cameron told reporters in Brussels that the British public would find the “vast” sum of money asked of the EU was “totally unacceptable”.

He said that he first heard about the EU’s demands on Thursday but acknowledged that the Treasury knew about it last week.

He interrupted a meeting of EU leaders in Brussels to express dismay at the demand for the UK to pay more into the EU’s coffers on 1 December.

He told Commission boss Jose Manuel Barroso he had no idea of the impact it would have, Downing Street said.

It will add about a fifth to the UK’s annual net EU contribution of £8.6bn.

There has been anger across the political spectrum in the UK at the EU’s demand for additional money, which comes just weeks before the vital Rochester and Strood by-election, where UKIP is trying to take the seat from the Conservatives.

Drugs and prostitution

EU leaders discussed the issue for an hour in Brussels on Friday. Mr Cameron told Mr Barroso, who steps down next month, that the problem was not just press or public opinion but was about the amount of money being demanded.

The surcharge follows an annual review of the economic performance of EU member states since 1995, which showed Britain has done better than previously thought. Elements of the black economy – such as drugs and prostitution – have also been included in the calculations for the first time. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-29754168

Anti-EU UK leader Nigel Farage claims that David Cameron will have to pay anyway:

October 24, 2014

Nigel Farage has claimed that David Cameron will be forced to pay out an extra £1.7bn into the EU budget by the end of next month despite the government saying the extra demand was not acceptable.

The Ukip leader’s comments, which he says is a reflection of Britain’s impotence in Europe, will increase the pressure on the prime minister following Thursday night’s disclosure that Britain has been ordered to pay the money because its economy is performing better than other EU economies.

A government source said the demand was “not acceptable”. It remained unclear on Friday morning whether the British government would challenge the EU demand in the courts,an option the Dutch government is reportedly exploring.

But on an LBC radio phone-in on Friday morning, Farage said Cameron would have little option but to go along with the demand, which will have to be paid in December.

“Of course he will pay up. These are the rules, the contributions to the European Union was a very complex formula and part of it is a measurement of your GDP against everybody else’s. There’s nothing he can do,” he said.

But prominent Tory critics of Europe continued to demand that Cameron makes a stand.

Conservative backbencher John Redwood said the surcharge “offended all our principles of natural justice and fair taxation”.

“It is a very large increase in tax on the British people charged retrospectively without their agreement,” he told Radio 4’s Today programme.

He suggested the UK should simply refuse to pay the extra amount and that parliament should be asked to pass a law declaring the payment illegal.

“The British people will not want to send another £1.7bn to the European Union by a very big majority and so the British government just says it won’t pay,” he said.

Tory Eurosceptic Mark Pritchard said Cameron should consider bringing forward a referendum on whether the UK should leave the EU, which the prime minister has promised in 2017. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/24/eu-contribution-cameron-pay-extra-funds-farage

David Cameron is in a tough spot. He wants the UK to stay in the European Union and knows full well that this request for additional funds will assist those, like Nigel Farage, who want the UK to leave the EU.

Many months ago, UK Prime Minister David Cameron warned that if Jean-Claude Juncker became EU Commission President, this would increase the probability that the UK will later vote to leave the European Union. Jean-Claude Juncker was then appointed the EU Commission President.

For a while, the general feeling has been that if those in the UK get a chance to vote, they will vote themselves out of the European Union. Many wish to prevent that type of vote, but David Cameron’s UK Conservative party has pledged to have such a vote if it is remains in power.

More and more, the continental Europeans are becoming displeased with the UK and its approach to European Union matters. And they will not take kindly to the UK’s Prime Minister’s refusal to pay.

The EU is having financial problems:

October 24, 2014

BRUSSELS—

Euro zone leaders sought on Friday to bridge stark differences over how to avoid economic stagnation and deflation in the bloc, with Germany facing fresh calls to soften its budget rigor and spend more.

With a U.S.-style bond-buying plan by the European Central Bank off the table for now, the bloc has few options, leaving other euro zone leaders to tread a careful line between the opposing growth and austerity camps.

“It’s very important to find a balance between growth and stability,” Finland’s Prime Minister Alex Stubb said as he arrived at the second day of an EU summit at which ECB President Mario Draghi will address leaders.

After the euro zone’s revival came to a halt in the second quarter, France and Italy want to shift course away from the spending cuts that marked the bloc’s response to 2009-2012 crisis, but Germany says debt discipline must continue.

The euro zone’s poor performance is becoming a wider concern, with the United States and the International Monetary Fund worrying that the bloc that makes up a fifth of the world economy is a drag on global prosperity.

The debate is complicated by EU rules that seek to keep country’s public finances in order and Germany’s promise to balance its books next year for the first time since 1969.

The European Union’s top economic official renewed the charge against Berlin, saying that without investment the future was bleak for Europe’s biggest economy, even if it is stronger than most.

“All euro area countries have shortages in potential growth, including Germany,” said Jyrki Katainen, the European Commissioner who will become the bloc’s growth tsar from November, tasked with bringing down near record unemployment and sinking investment. http://www.voanews.com/content/reu-eu-growth-tsar-tells-germany-to-invest-more-no-decision-on-italy/2494736.html

If the UK does not pay, this will show more in the EU that the UK does not want the EU to truly succeed. Of course, the UK did not cause most of the EU’s problems, and the EU has problems of its own. There has been, for example, an increase of German investment in the USA (e.g. German companies look overseas as home opportunities fade) that means that less investment is remaining in Germany itself (it also means that the Germany is becoming more of a creditor to the USA and that will not end well for the USA per Habakkuk 2:6-8). Despite certain German moves, it is the UK that will tend to get blamed more for the immediate short-term issues in the EU, as well as certain longer running problems.

As far as the current situation goes, most likely the UK will file a lawsuit and/or conduct negotiations with the EU to try to reduce/delay the payment surcharge that has now been demanded. David Cameron will try to do something to claim some type of victory and hope that his nation will not vote to leave the European Union.

The idea of Britain leaving the European Union has been called a “Brexit” or “Brixet” – British exit. Here is a news item I posted here back in February related to that:

The fact of the matter is that “Brexit” happens to make perfect sense for the UK.

There is not going to be a two-speed EU with some countries in the Eurozone and others not. One is going to be either in or out. Sitting on the fence forever won’t happen. Neither French president Francois Hollande nor the UK liberals will allow that. http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2014/02/rise-of-eurosceptics-in-netherlands.html#Rp3H28DwXxljt5Y1.99

On June 26, 2007, (see Tony Blair a Catholic EU Leader?), I posted the following:

We in the COGs tend to believe that the final beast power will be nominally Catholic (see Europa and the Beast of Revelation)…we in the COGs do believe that Britain will pull out of the EU…

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland will not be an equal part of the European Union. Britain will either pull out or be forced out or at least truly lose its sovereignty. The Bible indicates that the end time descendants of the Israelite tribes, because of their national sins, will be taken over and many killed.

Many of the Anglo-Saxon peoples of the UK, USA, etc. that are not killed will to be scattered and many will be made slaves by the final European Beast power(see Hosea 7:11-16; 9:1-17; 11:5-7; 12:1; 13:12-16; see also Will the Anglo-Nations be Divided and Have People Taken as Slaves?). That is some of what the Bible shows will happen during the Great Tribulation.

The final European King of the North (Daniel 11:27-40) will take over the UK, USA, and their Anglo-Saxon allies according to Bible prophecy (cf. Daniel 11:39).

While more and more people in the UK are concerned about EU plans, most have no idea how dangerous the rising Beast power in Europe will become (cf. Revelation 13:1-4; Daniel 11:39). Britain will ultimately NOT thrive as part of the EU but will be taken over by the final European Beast power.

No matter how much of a surcharge the UK may or may not pay, it will not be able to stop this.

Some items of possibly related interest may include:

British are the Covenant People What do ‘British’ and ‘Britain’ mean in Hebrew? Are the descendants of the Anglo-Saxons people of the covenant? Does the British royal family connect to the throne of David? What does the Bible teach? What does history show us? Is there any DNA evidence related to British-Israelism? When did Christianity make it to the British Isles? Could Jeremiah have made it to the British Isles? What type of Christians made it to the British Isles? Did the last King of England believe in British Israelism?
Europa, the Beast, and Revelation Where did Europe get its name? What might Europe have to do with the Book of Revelation? What about “the Beast”? Is an emerging European power “the daughter of Babylon”? What is ahead for Europe? Here is a link to a video titled: Can You Prove that the Beast to Come is European?
Must the Ten Kings of Revelation 17:12 Rule over Ten Currently Existing Nations? Some claim that these passages refer to a gathering of 10 currently existing nations together, while one group teaches that this is referring to 11 nations getting together. Is that what Revelation 17:12-13 refers to? The ramifications of misunderstanding this are enormous. A related sermon is titled Ten Kings of Revelation and the Great Tribulation.
Two Horned Beast of Revelation and 666 Who is 666? This article explains how the COG views this, and compares this to Ellen White.
Europa, the Beast, and Revelation Where did Europe get its name? What might Europe have to do with the Book of Revelation? What about “the Beast”? Is an emerging European power “the daughter of Babylon”? What is ahead for Europe? Here is a link to a video titled: Can You Prove that the Beast to Come is European?
European Technology and the Beast of Revelation Will the coming European Beast power would use and develop technology that will result in the taking over of the USA and its Anglo-Saxon allies? Is this possible? What does the Bible teach? Here is a related YouTube video: Military Technology and the Beast of Revelation.
Anglo – America in Prophecy & the Lost Tribes of Israel Are the Americans, Canadians, English, Scottish, Welsh, Australians, Anglo-Saxon (non-Dutch) Southern Africans, and New Zealanders descendants of Joseph? Where are the lost ten-tribes of Israel? Who are the lost tribes of Israel? What will happen to Jerusalem and the Jews in Israel? Will God punish the U.S.A., Canada, United Kingdom, and other Anglo-Saxon nations? Why might God allow them to be punished first? Here is a link to the Spanish version of this article: Anglo-América & las Tribus Perdidas de Israel. Information is also in the YouTube sermons titled Where are the Ten Lost Tribes? Why does it matter? and British are the Covenant People. A short YouTube of prophetic interest may be Barack Obama and the State of the Apocalypse.
Will the Anglo-Saxon Nations be Divided and Have People Taken as Slaves? Will the lands of the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand be divided? What about Jerusalem? What does Bible prophecy teach? Are there non-biblical prophecies that support this idea? Who will divide those lands? Who will end up with the lands and the people? Here is a link to a video titled Will the USA and other Anglo-nations be Divided and Their People Made Slaves? Here is a related item in the Spanish language ¿Serán divididas las naciones anglosajonas?
Might German Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg become the King of the North? Is the former German Defense Minister (who is also the former German Minister for Economics and Technology) one to watch? What do Catholic, Byzantine, and biblical prophecies suggest?
Germany’s Assyrian Roots Throughout History Are the Germanic peoples descended from Asshur of the Bible? Have there been real Christians in Germanic history? What about the “Holy Roman Empire”? There is also a You-Tube video sermon on this titled Germany’s Biblical Origins.
Germany in Biblical and Catholic Prophecy Does Assyria in the Bible equate to an end time power inhabiting the area of the old Roman Empire? What does prophecy say Germany will do and what does it say will happen to most of the German people?
Who is the King of the North? Is there one? Do biblical and Roman Catholic prophecies for the Great Monarch point to the same leader? Should he be followed? Who will be the King of the North discussed in Daniel 11? Is a nuclear attack prophesied to happen to the English-speaking peoples of the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand? When do the 1335 days, 1290 days, and 1260 days (the time, times, and half a time) of Daniel 12 begin? When does the Bible show that economic collapse will affect the United States? Here is a link to a video titled: The Future King of the North.
Can You Prove that the Beast to Come is European? The Book of Revelation tells of a beast power that will rise up. Some think that this must be Russia or could be Islamic, while others say that this power is European. The Book of Daniel tells of the rise of an end time King of the North that some think must be referring to a Russian leader, while others say that this power is European. How can you be sure? This YouTube video has all the scriptural proofs that you should need to prove that this power must be a European one.
The Eurasian Union, the Kings of the East, and Bible Prophecy Is there a Eurasian union that will be formed? Is one being formed right now? Are any leaders working on that in the 21st century? Does the Bible teach that there will be a Eurasian union? If some type of Eurasian union is formed, who might it benefit and who will it destroy? A related video would be Is The Eurasian Union Rising?
Is Russia the King of the North? Some claim it is. But what does the Bible teach? Here is a link to a video, also titled Is Russia the King of the North?