American Catholic and Pentecostal leaders promoting ecumenical alignment to their peril

Ecumenical Service (Eduardo Frei Ruiz Tagle)

Zenit, a pro-Vatican news agency, reported the following:

The web sites for two conferences held this month in Virginia now feature the videos of the keynote addresses presented there, including those given by Fr. Raniero Cantalamessa, preacher of the Pontifical Household…

Deacon Darrell Wentworth, a liaison for the Catholic Fraternity’s North American Regional Communities, was the organizer of the Pastors, Leaders, Clergy Summit 2014 and the Awakening the Domestic Church conference.

The Catholic Fraternity, an ecclesial community given juridical personality by Saint John Paul II in 1990, works in collaboration with the Pontifical Councils for the Laity and Promoting Christian Unity.

In 2010 Cardinals Stanislaw Rylko and Paul Cordes, president of the Pontifical Council for the Laity, and retired president of the Pontifical Council Cor Unum, respectively, encouraged the Catholic Fraternity’s communities to engage more fully in the Church’s efforts toward the New Evangelization and full communion of the Christian churches…

Below is an interview with a participant in the Pastors, Leaders, Clergy Summit, Dr. Dale Coulter. Dr. Coulter is an Associate Professor of Historical Theology at Regent University’s School of Divinity.

ZENIT: From the Pentecostal perspective, how do you approach the ecumenical movement?

Dr. Coulter: Individual Pentecostals have been involved in the ecumenical movement since the 1960s when David Du Plessis heard the Holy Spirit tell him to get involved. The official bilateral dialogue between Catholics and Pentecostals began in 1972 and continues to this day. While the ultimate goal of the ecumenical movement is visible unity, that goal is a long way off. Right now the two realizable goals are 1) mutual understanding and 2) common mission.

From a Pentecostal perspective this can be achieved through an exchange of gifts that I would say occurs when Pentecostals receive the gift of the sacramental dimension from Catholics and Catholics receive the gift of the charismatic from Pentecostals. Before we can even discuss visible unity, we need to discuss how to live together as brothers and sisters in Christ and fellow participants in the communion of the saints.

ZENIT: Could you further explain how you view this exchange of gifts, practically speaking? What do you understand by the ‘gift of the sacramental dimension’ for Pentecostals? And how do you think Catholics should receive the ‘gift of the charismatic?”

Dr. Coulter: Ecumenism begins to work when each side re-discovers something about itself or discovers an implication of its theology. Ecumenism can never succeed if one side is just trying to make the other into a clone as it were. Successful ecumenism happens through relationships that are established at the local level, which then generate friendships as well as through dialogues that occur at the formal and informal levels.The first step of those friendships is to learn the language of the friend–the family speak. This helps overcome stereotypes and caricatures. That was one of the goals behind the Clergy Summit…

ZENIT: Will the ecumenical movement ever “get anywhere” and if so, what factors need to come into play?

Dr. Coulter: I remain hopeful about the ecumenical movement even though there are conflicting signs right now. The breakup of mainline Protestantism over the moral issues suggests an ecumenical winter. When one adds to this the way in which geo-politics will impact the Orthodox churches, especially the situation in Russia and the Ukraine, the prospects do not look good. It suggests more fracturing rather than any coming together. At the same time, the spirituality being facilitated in and through the charismatic movement coupled with numerous Catholic/Protestant initiatives show signs of a potential spring. In addition, the Ecumenical Patriarch has called for a pan-Orthodox council and preparations are being made.

Given this state, what can we do:

1. We need work at the diocesan level between Catholics, Protestants, and Orthodox. http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/conferences-in-us-answer-call-from-rome-for-greater-efforts-in-christian-unity

These ecumenical meetings and plans are dangerous.

Few people realize how fast the ecumenical movement is moving. While some, even amongst the Eastern Orthodox have publicly opposed it (see Greek Orthodox Bishops denounce Pope Francis, Church of Rome, and Ecumenism as Antichrist Plan of Freemasons), others have embraced it. So much so, that the Eastern Orthodox agreed to their first “ecumenical council” in over a thousand years earlier this year (see Orthodox agree to eighth ecumenical council: If Orthodox prophecy is correct on it, this council marks a major step towards the end!), which is to take place in 2016.

Earlier this year, Charismatic Kenneth Copeland agreed to it (see Protestant endorsement of the ecumenical agenda: Kenneth Copeland do you not understand? and/or watch Charismatic Kenneth Copeland and Anglican Tony Palmer: Protestants Beware!). Even the United Nations is pushing it (see United Nations: Humankind’s Last Hope or New World Order? Iand/or watch a related video: United Nations and Vatican Are Planning the New World Order.).

The Bible clearly warns against the final Babylonian system which the ecumenical movement is trying to form Revelation 13:6-9; 17:3-6, 9, 18; 18:2-5).

That is the system that the ecumenical movement trying to prop up.

Catholics may be surprised to realize that some of their private prophecies warn against what is happening:

Anna-Katarina Emmerick (October 1, 1820): The Church is in great danger…The Protestant doctrine and that of the schismatic Greeks are to spread everywhere. I now see that in this place (Rome) the (Catholic) Church is being so cleverly undermined, that there hardly remain a hundred or so priests who have not been deceived. They all work for the destruction, even the clergy. A great destruction is now at hand…

(April 22, 1823): I saw that many pastors allowed themselves to be taken up with ideas that were dangerous to the Church. They were building a great, strange, and extravagant Church. Everyone was admitted in it in order to be united and to have equal rights: Evangelicals, Catholics, sects of every description. Such was to be the new Church (Dupont Y. Catholic Prophecy: The Coming Chastisement. TAN Books, Rockford (IL), 1973, pp. 66, 71).

Jeanne le Royer (died 1798): One day I heard a voice which said, ‘The new Constitution will appear to many other than what it really is. They will bless it as a gift from heaven; whereas it is really a gift from {haydes} and permitted by God in His just wrath. It will only be by its effects that people will be led to recognize the Dragon who wanted to destroy all and devour all (Dupont, p. 53).

Oba Prophecy: It will come when the Church authorities issue directives to support a new cult, when priests are forbidden to celebrate in any other, when the highest positions in the Church are given to perjurers and hypocrites, when only the renegades are admitted to occupy those positions.

Nun Anna-Katarina Emmerick (19th century): I saw again a new and odd-looking Church which they were trying to build. There was nothing holy about it…

Yves Dupont (writer interpreting A. Emmerick above), They wanted to make a new Church, a Church of human manufacture, but God had other designs…The Holy Father shall have to leave Rome, and he shall die a cruel death. An anti-pope shall be set up in Rome. (Dupont, pp. 115,116)

Jeanne le Royer (died 1978): I see that when the Second Coming of Christ approaches a bad priest will do much harm to the Church. (Culligan, E. The Last World War and the End of Time. The book was blessed by Pope Paul VI, 1966. TAN Books, Rockford (IL), p. 128)

St. Hildegard (died 1179): But now you see her from the waist down; for you see her in her full dignity as the Church…And from her waist to the place that denotes the female, she has various scaly blemishes… … And thus in the place where the female is recognized is a black and monstrous head. For the son of perdition will come raging with the arts he first used to seduce…causing people to deny God and tainting their minds and tearing the Church with the greed of rapine. (Hildegard of Bingen. Scivias. Paulist Press, Mahwah (NJ), pp. 497,498)

Comment by Barbara Newman (1998): But as early as Scivias, Hildegard shockingly portrayed Ecclesia {the Catholic Church} as giving birth to Antichrist himself…Some other early works of Hildegard’s, written before 1159, show a similar sourness of tone with respect to the institutional church. (Newman, Barbara. Voice of the Living Light: Hildegard of Bingen and Her World. Published by University of California Press, 1998, p. 83)

Priest O’Connor (20th century?): This final false prophet will be a bishop of the church and will lead all religions into becoming one. (The False Prophet. Living in the Final Generation. http://www.geocities.com/rebornempowered/ApparitionsofMary.htm 10/12/07)

Protestants used to teach that the Pope was the antichrist and would be the final Antichrist. Catholic prophecies warn against their leaders supporting the faith of the Antichrist. The ecumenical movement is warned against in the Bible and even Catholic prophecies. None should support it.

The Bible teaches that the only true unity of the faith will happen AFTER the false ecumenical movement is eliminated which happens with the return of Jesus Christ (e.g. Zechariah 2:6-11).

What certain Catholic, Pentecostal, Protestant, and Orthodox leaders are trying to do is not the will of God.

Some items of related interest may include:

Beware: Protestants Going Towards Ecumenical Destruction! What is going on in the Protestant world? Are Protestants turning back to their ‘mother church’ in Rome? Does the Bible warn about this? What are Catholic plans and prophecies related to this? Is Protestantism doomed?
Why Should American Catholics Fear Unity with the Orthodox? Are the current ecumenical meetings a good thing or will they result in disaster? Is doctrinal compromise good? Here is a link to a related video Should you be concerned about the ecumenical movement?
Orthodox Must Reject Unity with the Roman Catholics Unity between these groups will put them in position to be part of the final end time Babylon that the Bible warns against as well as require improper compromise.
Hope of Salvation: How the Continuing Church of God differ from most Protestants How the real Church of God differs from mainstream/traditional Protestants, is perhaps the question I am asked most by those without a Church of God background. As far as some changes affecting Protestantism, watch the video Charismatic Kenneth Copeland and Anglican Tony Palmer: Protestants Beware!
United Nations: Humankind’s Last Hope or New World Order? Is the UN the last hope for humanity? Or might its goals end up with sinister results? A related video would be United Nations and Vatican Are Planning the New World Order.
Which Is Faithful: The Roman Catholic Church or the Continuing Church of God? Do you know that both groups shared a lot of the earliest teachings? Do you know which church changed? Do you know which group is most faithful to the teachings of the apostolic church? Which group best represents true Christianity? This documented article answers those questions. [Português: Qual é fiel: A igreja católica romana ou a igreja do deus?]
Some Similarities and Differences Between the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Continuing Church of God Both groups claim to be the original church, but both groups have differing ways to claim it. Both groups have some amazing similarities and some major differences. Do you know what they are?
Who is the Man of Sin of 2 Thessalonians 2? Is this the King of the North, the ten-horned beast of Revelation 13:1-11, or the two-horned Beast of Revelation 13:12-16? Some rely on traditions, but what does the Bible teach? Here is a related link in Spanish/español: ¿Quién es el Hombre de Pecado de 2 Tesalonicenses 2? Here is a version in Mandarin: 主编：谁是’大罪人’？Here is a link to a related YouTube video, in English, titled Who is the Man of Sin?
Some Doctrines of Antichrist Are there any doctrines taught outside the Churches of God which can be considered as doctrines of antichrist? This article suggests at least three. It also provides information on 666 and the identity of “the false prophet.” Plus it shows that several Catholic writers seem to warn about an ecumenical antipope that will support heresy. You can also watch a video titled What Does the Bible teach about the Antichrist?
Could Pope Francis be the Last Pope and Antichrist? According to some interpretations of the prophecies of the popes by the Catholic saint and Bishop Malachy, Pope Francis I is in the position of “Peter the Roman,” the pontiff who reigns during tribulations until around the time of the destruction of Rome. Do biblical prophecies warn of someone that sounds like Peter the Roman? Could Francis I be the heretical antipope of Catholic private prophecies and the final Antichrist of Bible prophecy? This is a YouTube video.