Archive for June, 2008

CG7: One Abortion Stopped

Thursday, June 19th, 2008

Bas-relief at Angkor Wat, dated circa 1150, depicting a demon performing an abortion by pounding a mallet into a woman’s belly.

COGwriter

CG7 has an article by Janet Brown which states:

Blind love

It started when a friend invited me to go to the bar with her and watch her brother play in a band, and I met Bob. He was on stage playing his keyboard when suddenly he looked up and our eyes met. For me, it was love at first sight.

When the band took a break, Bob ignored the other women vying for his attention and came right to our table. “Who’s your friend?” he asked his sister. She introduced us, and he asked me to dance. I was literally swept off my feet by his suave dance moves and flattering words.

We started dating, and before I knew it, Bob had moved into my house. I had been taught that living together before marriage was wrong in God’s sight. Nevertheless, I was so in love with Bob, I ignored my conscience. I had never been happier in my life . . . or so I thought.

Troubled conscience

When the pregnancy test read positive, everything changed. Our romance immediately turned sour, and my dream world collapsed around me. Bob insisted I have an abortion; he made the appointment. All I could do was cry…

Right decision

The day before the appointment, I made my decision. I knew I had to cancel the abortion, even if it meant losing Bob. I carried through with my decision, then waited for him to come home from work.

As I waited, I prayed. God, please give me the courage to stand firm in my decision. I know abortion is wrong. I know living together is wrong. I confess my sins to You, God, and ask for Your forgiveness. I want to make things right. Please help me.

Turnaround

I heard Bob’s car pull in the driveway. I took a deep breath, ready to defend my position. He came inside and plopped on the couch. “We have to talk,” he said. “We can’t go through with this abortion.” Relief flooded my soul. I couldn’t believe my ears!

“Something happened today that totally changed my mind,” he continued. “I was struggling with my conscience all morning. I just didn’t have any peace, so I decided to take a walk on my lunch hour to clear my head.

“I passed by a hooker who was pregnant out to here.” He illustrated with his arms how big she was. “She asked me if I was looking for a good time, and I told her, ‘No.’ I walked a few more blocks then turned around and went back to her. ‘Why are you doing this in your condition?’ I asked. She said, ‘Because it’s my job.’ So I asked her, ‘Why didn’t you just have an abortion? Wouldn’t that have made your job a lot easier?’ She said, ‘Mister, I love my baby. And besides, I don’t believe in killing someone helpless.’”

Confession

Bob hung his head. “That really shocked me. I never thought about abortion as killing someone helpless.”

He was quiet a minute, then continued. “I walked on until I came to a church. Something drew me inside.” Bob hadn’t been inside a church in years. “I sat down in one of the pews, and then I got on my knees and prayed, ‘God, forgive me. I’m a bigger sinner than that prostitute. Forgive me for wanting to kill my baby.’”

He looked at me with tears in his eyes. “I’m canceling the appointment,” he said.

Then I started crying. “You don’t have to,” I sobbed. “I already did.” We hugged, then sat down at the table and discussed the future of our baby. We decided to do the right thing and get married.

Two wrongs don’t make a right.  Fornication is wrong, but having an abortion is not the solution.  At  least Janet Brown (I do not know if that was her real name as I do not recall reading anything from her before) did not make a bad situation worse.

While we in the Church of God have always opposed abortion, at least one early “Bishop of Rome”, Callistus , allowed it for wealthy women (some later popes also allowed it).

But that is only one of the many ways, the Roman Catholic Church differs from the Living Church of  God.

Several articles of possibly related interest may include:

Abortion, the Bible, and a Woman’s Right to Choose Do you know what the Bible teaches on this?
Which Is Faithful: The Roman Catholic Church or the Living Church of God? Do you know that both groups shared a lot of the earliest teachings? Do you know which church changed? Do you know which group is most faithful to the teachings of the apostolic church? Which group best represents true Christianity? This documented article answers those questions.
Church of God, Seventh Day: History and Teachings Nearly all COG’s I am aware of trace their history through this group. Whaid Rose is the president of the largest CG7 group (Denver). Do you know much about them?
There are Many COGs: Why Support the Living Church of God? This is an article for those who wish to easily sort out the different COGs. It really should be a MUST READ for current and former WCG members or any interested in supporting the faithful church. It also explains a lot of what the COGs are all about.

Europe Moving Forward

Wednesday, June 18th, 2008

European Union Tower of Babel Poster

The above poster was produced by the Europeans over a decade ago. It may be of interest to note that the above inverted stars are pentagrams, a satanic symbol. The poster tower was based upon a painting of the Tower of Babel by a European, Pieter Brueghel the Elder, in 1563 .

COGwriter

So does the EU plan to accept the “vote of the Irish”?

As long-time readers of this page are aware, no as that is not acceptable to the EU.  So what is the solution?

To call for the firing of the Irish representative to the EU and to meet tomorrow to deal with this:

EU Presses Ahead With Treaty Ratification Despite Irish “No”

Deutsche Welle – June 18, 2008

Ahead of a summit in Brussels, the European Union called Wednesday for the ratification process of the Lisbon Treaty to continue despite its crushing rejection by Irish voters last week.

A planned two-day European Union summit which opens on Thursday, June 19, meant to focus on weighty topics such as rising oil prices is likely to be overshadowed by the institutional crisis plaguing the bloc after Irish voters last week resoundingly rejected the Lisbon treaty…

Slovenian Prime Minister Janez Jansa, who will act as chair for the last time as president of the European Union, insists that “not a single item has been dropped from the official agenda because of what happened in Ireland”…

On Wednesday, Schulz called for Irish EU Commissioner Charlie McCreevy to be removed from his post, accusing him of contributing to Ireland’s rejection of the Lisbon Treaty.

“Mr McCreevy, responsible for the internal market, seen as a threat by European citizens, said he had not read the Lisbon Treaty,” German Martin Schulz, told the European Parliament in Strasbourg. “How van you create confidence with this kind of behavior?” a visibly angry Schulz said.

Ireland was the only EU member that held a popular vote to approve the treaty, as required by the country’s constitution.

So far, 18 of the 27 EU parliaments have approved the treaty…http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,3421749,00.html?maca=en-rss-en-all-1573-rdf

The plan is to then re-word one or two points and then try to move forward.  I suspect if they would make a minor adjustment or two, the Vatican would get strong enough for its support that they treaty would be approved.

Furthermore, the EU apparently has decided that the best way to gain military advantage is to ignore the vote and have the French become more part of NATO (which will mean that the United States will have few secrets that the EU is unaware of, while the United States will not realize that the biggest “military secret” in the world is that the Europeans will destroy the USA and its English-speaking allies once it believes that it clearly has the overwhelming ability to do so):

President Sarkozy marches France back to Nato with military shake-up

The Times – June 18, 2008

Four decades after President de Gaulle broke with the Nato command President Sarkozy announced France’s return to the heart of the alliance — with conditions on EU defence that may unsettle Britain…

Mr Sarkozy insisted that he will make EU defence a priority when France takes over the rotating presidency next month, despite Ireland’s rejection of the Lisbon treaty last week. The treaty includes measures for an EU defence policy that aims to create a 60,000-strong EU force for long-distance intervention.

“Whatever happens to the Lisbon treaty, I will not change my mind,” said Mr Sarkozy, who postponed his defence review until after the Irish referendum. “I want the alliance to be more European, and how can we have a more European alliance without France?”

The President said that there was an urgent need to raise and co-ordinate Europe’s modest spending on a defence industry that is a sixth the size of that in the US. He also stipulated that France’s nuclear arsenal would remain under its national command, and French troops would be deployed under Nato command only with the approval of Paris. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4160462.ece

The Beast is prophesied to have a powerful military that wins wars (Revelation 13:4).

Some articles of related interest may include:

Two Horned Beast of Revelation and 666 This article explains how the LCG views this, and compares this to Ellen White.
Europa, the Beast, and Revelation Where did Europe get its name? What might Europe have to do with the Book of Revelation? What about “the Beast”?
Persecutions by Church and State This article documents some that have occurred against those associated with the COGs and some prophesied to occur.
Who is the King of the North? Is there one? Do biblical and Roman Catholic prophecies point to the same leader? Should he be followed? Who will be the King of the North discussed in Daniel 11? Is a nuclear attack prophesied to happen to the English-speaking peoples of the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand? When do the 1335 days, 1290 days, and 1260 days (the time, times, and half a time) of Daniel 12 begin?

Floods = Higher Food Costs

Wednesday, June 18th, 2008


Flooding in Iowa Affected More Than Urban Housing

COGwriter

The Iowa flooding is expected to raise food prices as the following article shows:

US floods hit food prices

Financial Times – June 17, 2008

Consumers were warned to expect even sharper increases in global food prices after US officials said that some of the country’s best farmland was facing its worst flooding for 15 years.

Agriculture officials and traders said the damage could push up worldwide corn and soyabean prices, which have spiralled in recent days as floods have swamped crops in parts of Iowa, the US’s biggest corn-producing state.

The warning comes at a time when high food prices are already sparking protests across the developing world.

Corn futures in Chicago this week rose to record highs of more than $8 a bushel on fears that up to 5m acres of the crop could be lost, while soyabean prices hit a record of $15.93 a bushel.

Tom Jennings, acting director of the Illinois Department of Agriculture, said: “The price of corn and the price of beans could rise more. If we lose a lot of corn the prices will continue to go up.”

The increase in the cost of corn and soyabeans – the two main feed crops for farm animals such as cows and chickens – increased the price of live cattle yesterday for the second day in a row, to the highest level in 22 years.

Mr Jennings said that the impact of the heavy rains was “dramatic”…

Agriculture traders …added that expensive nitrogen fertiliser – critical for the plants’ development – has now been washed out from the fields by the rains. For that reason, some farmers are likely to leave their land fallow and, instead, cash in their crop insurance policies, further reducing supply.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2a0e8188-3c98-11dd-b958-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1

If the above was not bad enough, notice what AOL reported this morning:

Second River Levee Breaks in Illinois

By MARIA SUDEKUM FISHER,
AP
Posted: 2008-06-18 08:25:29
GULFPORT, Ill. (June 18) — Floodwaters breached another levee in Illinois on Wednesday and threatened more Mississippi River towns in Missouri after inundating much of Iowa for the past week.
The breach in Meyer, in western Illinois, forced the evacuation of the town of 40 to 50 people and threatened its farmland, Adams County Emergency Management Agency spokeswoman Julie Shepard said….
Later in the week, the Mississippi is expected to threaten a host of others communities, leading officials to consider evacuation plans and begin sandbagging.

While in the short run, we in the USA will mainly be annoyed by higher food prices, these prices can lead to real hunger and death in poorer countries. In the USA itself, they will probably lead to higher inflation and will shift consumer spending away from items such as cars and into needed items like food. This will then most likely hurt US manufacturing and related industries (as well as impacting foreign nations that sell their manufactured goods in the USA).

As mentioned before, there have already been concerns about rice (see Rice and the Beginning of Sorrows) and wheat (see Food Riots: A Sign of the “Beginning of Sorrows”?) around the world, adding corn and soy beans to that list suggests problems with the supplies of the four major grains in the world.

Things are already bad in Myanmar, because of the cyclone there. And once international attention leaves that country, its citizens will also somehow have to compete to buy more expensive foods. This flood, thus, may impact poorer countries in Asia and elsewhere more than the USA–this time.

But, unless massive repentance occurs soon, the time is coming where the USA itself will suffer much death through starvation. And while I do not believe it will be this year, I do not believe it is too many years from now.

Last night on HNN, Glenn Beck (a Mormon) advised Americans to stock up on food. While this may help individuals, at this time that would also drive up prices. How high remains to be seen.

Notice the the Bible is clear that high food prices are prophesied to hit the world:

5 When He opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come and see.” So I looked, and behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, “A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not harm the oil and the wine.” (Revelation 6:5-6).

Translated into current terms, the above indicates that many of those affected will work all day for a little less food than they need (and a lot less than Americans now consume), allowing for no other use of their money (like shelter, clothing, transportation).

This time will most likely be here within the next decade.

LCG has long had a booklet of possibly related interest titled “Who Controls the Weather? ” that is available for those interested in more on the weather and Bible prophecy.

Three articles of related interest may include:

Who is the King of the North? Is there one? Do biblical and Roman Catholic prophecies point to the same leader? Should he be followed? Who will be the King of the North discussed in Daniel 11? Is a nuclear attack prophesied to happen to the English-speaking peoples ofthe United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand? When do the 1335 days, 1290 days, and 1260 days (the time, times, and half a time) of Daniel 12 begin?
End of Mayan Calendar 2012–Might 2012 Mean Something? There is a Mayan calendar prediction for change in 2012. 2012 changes were also centuries ago predicted by the Hopi Native Americans and the Hindu Indians (who were not even on the same continent). Do these Mayan/Hindu/Hopi prophecies have any value? Why might Satan have inspired this date? Does the Dresden codex show destruction of the earth by flood? Can the great tribulation start before 2012?
Does God Have a 6,000 Year Plan? What Year Does the 6,000 Years End? Was a 6000 year time allowed for humans to rule followed by a literal thousand year reign of Christ on Earth taught by the early Christians? When does the six thousand years of human rule end? When is the Great Tribulation?

Gays Winning Propaganda War

Tuesday, June 17th, 2008

The above photos of Hiroshima and Nagasaki reflect what parts of the USA are destined to look like unless massive repentance occurs

COGwriter

Yesterday, the State of California began to allow same-sex couples to marry. It matters not that the people of the State of California passed a referendum against this before. Democracy, once again, proves that it really does not work.

Those of you not living in California may not realize that for several months this year there have been pro-gay marriage advertisements on television here apparently designed to reduce objections to homosexual marriages.

And, currently the gays are winning the propaganda war.

The media and courts, in general, have been supportive of the homosexual cause. This morning, to cite one minor example, was the following headline from AOL News:

They Do At Last

Gay Marriages Begin in California

To prove this, both CNN last night and AOL this morning, showed an elderly lesbian California couple who “got married”. Of course, the truth is that most gay liasons are brief, multiple partners is the norm, and many studies which have looked into the subject (that I am aware of) have concluded that “gays” tend to be less happy than non-gays.

Of course the Bible condemns homosexuality. But even in supposedly free countries, telling the truth about that is becoming more difficult.

In last week’s update, LCG reported the following:

No More Freedom of Speech. For decades, freedom of speech has been a major tenet of Western democracies and a tool that has enabled the Gospel to be freely preached in Israelite-descended nations. Recently, there has been a backlash against free speech, particularly as it relates to the rights of minority groups, particularly homosexuals. In a recent court decision, dated May 30, 2008, the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal of Alberta fined evangelical pastor Stephen Boisson $5,000 for “damages for pain and suffering” and banned him from expressing his biblical perspective of homosexuality. In a quasi-judicial directive, he was ordered “to renounce his faith and never again express moral opposition to homosexuality,” and directed to apologize to the activist who complained of being emotionally hurt by his statements (World Net Daily, June 9, 2008). As time goes on, it will be increasingly difficult to preach God’s truth, the “Good News” of the Kingdom of God, and the Ezekiel Warning to the world. God observed that, at the end of the age, Israel would no longer know Him, having “turned away backward… You will revolt more and more. The whole head is sick” (Isaiah 1:3-5). This disturbing truth is more obvious every day, as prophecy marches on.

So, despite the fact that the gay lifestyle is condemned by the Bible, contributes to diseases (such as AIDS), and doesn’t make people happy, the media and courts seem to side with the gays.

This is sad, but not unexpected. The Bible shows:

1 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God (2 Timothy 3:1-4).

Those who watch the news, and even those who pay attention to the weather or gasoline prices, should realize that perilous times have come.

Unless the United States, Canada, and the other English peoples repent soon, disaster beyond what most have ever anticipated is just around the corner.

Two articles of possibly related interest may include:

The Ten Commandments Reflect Love, Breaking them is Evil Some feel that the ten commandments are a burden. Is that what Jesus, Paul, Peter, James, and John taught?
Who is the King of the North? Is there one? Do biblical and Roman Catholic prophecies point to the same leader? Should he be followed? Who will be the King of the North discussed in Daniel 11? Is a nuclear attack prophesied to happen to the English-speaking peoples of the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand? When do the 1335 days, 1290 days, and 1260 days (the time, times, and half a time) of Daniel 12 begin?

CNN: “Biblical Flood 2008”

Monday, June 16th, 2008


Flooding in Downtown Cedar Rapids, Iowa

COGwriter

Yesterday while watching the news on CNN, they had a variety of weather related reports.  One of its commentators referred to the flood in Iowa as the “Biblical Flood 2008”.  I believe that he also stated that the governor of Iowa declared 83 of 99 counties in Iowa as disaster areas.

CNN also reported that many in Iowa did not have flood insurance and that the State and Federal governments would need to step in and offer financial aid (which while helpful, will increase the Federal deficit).  CNN also mentioned that the flooding is likely to spread to other places (Illinois was next) as the waters drained down Iowa’s major rivers.

CNN also stated that the USDA believed that corn production would be down 10%.  As there have already been concerns about rice (see Rice and the Beginning of Sorrows) and wheat (see Food Riots: A Sign of the “Beginning of Sorrows”?) around the world, adding corn to that list suggests problems with the supplies of the three major grains in the world.

CNN also reported that about a million in China were displaced by flooding there.

CNN also reported that the large earthquake in Japan this weekend caused a mudslide and several deaths.

While I did not see it mention Myanmar (see also Myanmar Cyclone & China Quake) nor the droughts in the West & Australia, these are also serious concerns that affect many millions.

There was an ABC news story last week, that perhaps I should post some of here today:

Apocalypse Now: Floods, Tornadoes, Locusts

Weather of Biblical Proportions Sets Off Debate Among Theologians and Scientists
ABC News – June 12, 2008…

God’s wrath seems at work these days, as the heavens and Earth have unleashed earthquakes in China, a cyclone in Burma, killer tornadoes and record floods across the U.S. and even a plague of locusts (cicadas) in New England.

In Cedar Rapids, Iowa today, floodwaters forced the evacuation of a downtown hospital after residents of more than 3,000 homes fled for higher ground. A railroad bridge collapsed, and 100 city blocks were underwater…

By the final Book of Revelation in the New Testament, the Earth suffers “Seven Plagues” — from disease to “intense heat” and drought, then finally a shower of deadly hailstones.

And then comes the Apocalypse, the final judgment of man and destruction of the world by fire.

Biblical imagery is all over the news these days — even including a story last week of a New York baby being enwrapped by a snake in its crib, harking back to evil lurking in the Garden of Eden…

Most theologians and scientists don’t take seriously warnings that the end of the world is nigh. But many reputable scholars do lend some credence to the notion that the world is in for some kind of disaster, be it meteorological, ecological or geopolitical.

Though tsunamis, hurricanes and heat waves may not be punishment from God, history teaches that events in the physical world trigger upheaval in society. Civilizations have risen and fallen over drought, famine and water wars. http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/Weather/story?id=5062583&page=1

I would add that the civilization in the USA will be no exception–once we are perceived as weak enough (and the Europeans strong enough)–it will be over for the USA.

I would also comment that most scientists today do not believe in God, so of course they do not see any possible biblical connection.  And would add that most of the world’s theologians do not even understand the basic doctrines of the early church, hence the fact that they do not make connections of world weather issues and the Bible is no surprise.

Jesus, however, told His true followers to “Watch”, and indicated that true Christians would be careful so that they would not be “caught unawares” (Luke 21:34, KJV).

The truth is that we may be in the period of time, PRIOR to the Great Tribulation and “the Apocalypse” that Jesus referred to as “the beginning of sorrows” (Matthew 24:8).  And the events that the Bible shows will happen are things that the faithful followers of Christ should be paying attention to.

LCG has long had a booklet of possibly related interest titled “Who Controls the Weather? ” that is available for those interested in more on the weather and Bible prophecy.

Several other articles of possibly related interest may include:

The History of Early Christianity Are you aware that what most people believe is not what truly happened to the true Christian church? Do you know where the early church was based? Do you know what were the doctrines of the early church? Is your faith really based upon the truth or compromise?
End of Mayan Calendar 2012–Might 2012 Mean Something? There is a Mayan calendar prediction for change in 2012. 2012 changes were also centuries ago predicted by the Hopi Native Americans and the Hindu Indians (who were not even on the same continent). Do these Mayan/Hindu/Hopi prophecies have any value? Why might Satan have inspired this date? Does the Dresden codex show destruction of the earth by flood? Can the great tribulation start before 2012?
Universal Offer of Salvation: There Are Hundreds of Verses in the Bible Supporting the Doctrine of True Apocatastasis Do you believe what the Bible actually teaches on this? Do you know that the Bible shows that God will offer salvation to everyone who ever lived? Will all good things be restored? Does God’s plan of salvation take rebellion and spiritual blindness into account?
Did The Early Church Teach Millenarianism?
Was the millennium (sometimes called chiliasm) taught by early Christians? Who condemned it. Will Jesus literally reign for 1000 years on the earth? Is this time near?
Does God Have a 6,000 Year Plan? What Year Does the 6,000 Years End?
Was a 6000 year time allowed for humans to rule followed by a literal thousand year reign of Christ on Earth taught by the early Christians? When does the six thousand years of human rule end?

PCG Accused of Racism

Sunday, June 15th, 2008

Rendering of PCG’s Intended Armstrong Auditorium (Rees Associates)

COGwriter

The Philadelphia Church of God (PCG) was criticized by a Marxist magazine article a couple of days ago:

Political Affairs Magazine, NY – June 12, 2008
By Gavin Callaghan

The article begins with a photograph showing the South African ANC leader, Jacob Zuma, dancing in full Zulu battle garb and animal skins, while beneath him the caption reads “Once the jewel of Africa, this nation is now going the way of the rest of the continent. The new leader of the ruling party won’t help matters.” Another prominent caption on the opposite page reads, sarcastically, “This is the man that the ruling party in South Africa has turned to to address the nation’s crushing internal crises.”

Thus begins a disturbing and racist article entitled “Don’t Expect Jacob Zuma to Fix South Africa” by Joel Hilliker, found in the March 2008 issue of the reactionary protestant periodical, The Philadelphia Trumpet. Published by radical Christian propagandist Gerald Flurry of The Philadelphia Church of God, this magazine, along with its associated television program “The Key of David,” unapologetically and even fervently purveys what would seem to be the dying last gasp of the old 19th-century philosophy of Anglo-American Imperialism, with its allied ideologies of Christian Manifest Destiny and old-fashioned colonialism…

Hilliker’s critique of Zuma’s Communist connections, though, is but the prelude to a more central critique of the possibility that Zuma and the ANC are “flirting with the policies” of Zimbabwe, and the possibility of “stripping land and other economic assets from whites and giving them to blacks” (a policy which Robert Morley, elsewhere in the same issue, implicitly connects with the so-called Israeli “land-for-peace process”.) http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/articleview/7003/1/339/

The fact that a publication that refers to itself as “a Marxist Monthly” complains about an article that is critical of those with Marxist ties is not news.

While I have no intentions of trying to explain PCG’s article here (they can do that themselves if they wish to), I would like to address the subject of Anglo-Israelism and racism.

Political Affairs apparently believes that those who believe that God may have provided various blessings to specific groups of people is racist.

That premise from Political Affairs apparently shows a biased view of racism and is contrary to what the Bible teaches.

While it is true that the world is filled with racist groups, and some of them espouse Anglo-Israelism, the type of Anglo-Israelism espoused by the Living Church of God (LCG) is not racist.

For example, while we in the Living Church of God clearly believe that the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand were part of the promise that God gave to the descendants of Joseph in Genesis chapters 48 & 49, we do not believe that any one race is superior to any other. Nor do we believe that spiritual salvation has anything to do with race as we agree with Paul’s writing:

26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise ( Galatians 3:26-29).

The Apostle John made it clear that people of all races would be saved:

9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” (Revelation 7:9-11).

Furthermore, we in the Living Church of God believe that humans need to overcome racial predjudice. And unlike most other groups, this is actually part of our Official Statement of Fundamental Beliefs. Notice the following:

OVERCOMING RACIAL PREJUDICE

God’s Word commands all mankind to love their neighbors as themselves (Leviticus 19:18; Matthew 22:39; Acts 17:24-29). God reveals that salvation is now freely offered to both Jews and Gentiles (Acts 10:34-35; Romans 10:12-13; cf. Joel 2:32). We believe love and deep respect should be shown to people of all ethnicities (Romans 13:10).

While I do not doubt that many false charges will be leveled at LCG for preaching the truths of the Bible, teaching that God made promises to different peoples in the Bible that He will have fulfilled, in my view, is simply not racism.

An article of possibly related interest may be:

There are Many COGs: Why Support the Living Church of God? This is an article for those who wish to easily sort out the different COGs. It really should be a MUST READ for current and former WCG members or any interested in supporting the faithful church. It also explains a lot of what the COGs are all about.

Ronald Weinland Insane?

Saturday, June 14th, 2008

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Ronald Weinland Says His Books and His Interpretations of the Bible Are What He Wants Potential Supporters to Study. The COGwriter Site Instead Urges Those Interested in Him and End-Time Prophecies to Spend More Time Checking His Writings with the Bible.

COGwriter

Today, Ronald Weinland preached a sermon titled “Opening the Seals of Revelation” in Cincinnati. It is available at his church’s website for those who would like to listen to it themselves.

He claimed that events were in a “holding pattern” and that “we are waiting for God’s timing”–for “the second trumpet to sound”. He then stated that the sermon would be going through HIS book (his focus tends to be his own opinions as opposed to the Bible).

He then stated that the “seventh seal” is now open, but that although the Great Tribulation has begun, “it is not harsh tribulation yet”.

He then said that he had thought (and written) that physical tribulation would have began in April (2008), but that “thankfully”, it hasn’t happened yet. He then took shots at some of his critics–he stated that they have to come to repentance and need to change.

He might wish to look into a mirror.

Ronald Weinland even stated that he written before that God inspired his writings and they would prove that he was a prophet–and read (from his own book), that if what was written there did not happen, then he was false. Instead of admitting that he was false, he basically stated that he did not have the understanding of various details correct then.

He again claimed that the first trumpet of Revelation 8:7 was blown on April 17, 2008–this was not new.

He then said that people have had confusion about his sermons. He said he was not “a fortune teller”. He then hemmed and hawed about him stepping down/declaring himself false and blamed people for not understanding what the Bible and he teach. He said several things were very clear–essentially to those who could see things his way.

He claimed that events were happening related to the first trumpet, but that although he sees it, many do not. He pointed out weather and agricultural issues (which at the most are the beginning of sorrows-Matthew 24:7-8–but those are BEFORE the Great Tribulation).

He claimed what is happening now is a witness for the skeptics and mockers (apparently those that do not believe Ronald Weinland) and that his critics were the same type of people who would mock Jesus Christ. He considers people who have listened to him, but disagree, are “filled with bitterness and hatred”–though he almost always sounds bitter to me when he uses the term “mockers”.

I have not mocked Ronald Weinland. Nor am I filled with bitterness or hatred towards him.

Instead I have compared his teachings against the Bible to see if they were so, as the Bible says (Acts 17:11).

Yet, Ronald Weinland has been found lacking.

Here is what Revelation 8:7 will happen related to the first trumpet (which he said occurred on April 17, 2008):

The first angel sounded: And hail and fire followed, mingled with blood, and they were thrown to the earth. And a third of the trees were burned up, and all green grass was burned up.

The above simply has not happened.

Regular readers of the COGwriter page will recall that on March 29, 2008, Ronald Weinland specifically preached:

If by Pentecost I’m just going to make this real clear to everyone. If by Pentecost it is not powerfully and abundantly clear that there has been a great deal of destruction that will clearly encompass a third of all plant life in the US and at least the clear results of this mingled with blood the death of very much animal life and the beginning of large numbers of human life then I will stop preaching. Just so all the critics and everyone out there will understand. I am true to my word in these things. OK? And for all the critics if by the end of July and for most likely around Pentecost if nothing has clearly caused great destruction and death I will make it very clear that I was a false prophet. I will do exactly what I said I would do on all of those interviews that I have held; to do less, aah well, would be quite insane. (Weinland R. Three More Weeks–quote from near the 1 hour 28 minute point from the CGPFK website version. Sermon given March 29, 2008).

Pentecost was last Sunday, June 8th, 2008.

Clearly, according to his own words then, preaching today would demonstrate that Ronald Weinland is “quite insane”.

If any still follow him, their sanity now also needs to be examined.  (Perhaps I should mention here that although I am not a psychologist, I consider people like Ron Weinland and his followers to be delusional and not actually insane–“quite insane” was Ron Weinland’s term.)

I have been warning for years that Ronald Weinland is a false prophet.

The events, for one example, that the Bible stated needed to occur at the start of the 1260 days did not start. Yet Ronald Weinland has since repeatedly declared that despite lack of the physical signs that Jesus (Matthew 24:15-22) and Daniel (Daniel 11:28-39), to cite two biblical examples, stated needed to occur then, that the whole thing was spiritual–and there was no need for the biblically required signs.

Some, sadly, still cling to following Ronald Weinland. And have hoped against hope that the physical events he predicted (like nuclear devastation) would come to pass in a month or so since that date. Yet they have not. And while some still cling to the false hope that by July 16, 2008 (the other date that Ronald Weinland stated he would step down at) massive nuclear attacks on USA port cities such as New York and Los Angeles would occur (Ronald Weinland: False Prophet by Mid-June), the truth is that the great tribulation cannot begin in 2008 and Ronald Weinland is NOT God’s prophet.

Do people not recall that he stated the following on a radio interview on December 15, 2007:

A little after April…a dollar bill won’t be worth anything…We’re going to be brought down the tubes, very quickly, starting in April…What happens when a nuclear weapon goes off in New York and Chicago?… If we come to the point in time where what I’ve said doesn’t come to pass, the reality is that I’m just a false prophet. That’s the bottom line… The reality is if it doesn’t happen, then you’re just false…I’ll acknowledge my error, my wrong, if I’m wrong…

It is more than “A little after April”. A dollar bill still has significant value. Yet, Ronald Weinland still has not publicly admitted that he is false as he said he would.

What other broken prophecy/promise has to occur for people to stop following him?

I had hoped and prayed this week that perhaps he would be true to his word and stop preaching. Sadly, he failed to do so. It doesn’t matter what excuses he tried to make about people misunderstanding what he said–he spoke in English and wrote in English and people who can understand English should easily be able to tell that he is a false prophet.

Ronald Weinland did not even follow his own words. No one else should at this time either.

Several articles of related interest may include:

Concerns About Ronald Weinland’s Church of God-Preparing for the Kingdom of God Ronald Weinland falsely claims to be one of the two witnesses God is raising up and that the end will come in 2008. Is he a false prophet? He has at least one other view that suggests that he is not part of the COG.
Who is the King of the North? Is there one? Do biblical and Roman Catholic prophecies point to the same leader? Should he be followed? Who will be the King of the North discussed in Daniel 11? Is a nuclear attack prophesied to happen to the English-speaking peoples ofthe United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand? When do the 1335 days, 1290 days, and 1260 days (the time, times, and half a time) of Daniel 12 begin?
Does God Have a 6,000 Year Plan? What Year Does the 6,000 Years End? Was a 6000 year time allowed for humans to rule followed by a literal thousand year reign of Christ on Earth taught by the early Christians? When does the six thousand years of human rule end?
Who Are The Two Witnesses? What is their job? What does the Bible reveal? What has the Church of God taught on this subject? Might even Roman Catholic prophecies give some clues here?
There is a Place of Safety for the Philadelphians. Why it May Be Petra This article discusses a biblical ‘place of safety’ and includes quotes from the Bible and Herbert W. Armstrong on this subject–thus, there is a biblically supported alternative to the rapture theory.
End of Mayan Calendar 2012–Might 2012 Mean Something? There is a Mayan calendar prediction for change in 2012. 2012 changes were also centuries ago predicted by the Hopi Native Americans and the Hindu Indians (who were not even on the same continent). Do these Mayan/Hindu/Hopi prophecies have any value? Why might Satan have inspired this date? Can the great tribulation start before 2012?
Why Be Concerned About False and Heretical Leaders? There have been many false leaders–and Ronald Weinland is one of them–here is some of why you should be concerned about them.

WCG Misunderstands Forgiveness of Sin

Saturday, June 14th, 2008

TRANSFORMED FROM TRUTH

Worldwide Church of God Transformed from Truth to Fairy Tales

COGwriter

Yesterday, WCG sent out the following by its Joseph Tkach:

Why do we need faith if Jesus has already made us right with God?

The Bible tells us that in Christ, God has already done everything necessary for every person’s salvation. In Romans 5:18-19, for example, the apostle Paul wrote:

“Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men. For just as through the disobedience of the one man (speaking of Adam) the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man (referring to Jesus) the many will be made righteous” (NIV).

What Jesus did, he did for all humanity, and he did not wait for anyone to change their ways or improve their behavior before he acted. As Paul tells us in 1 Corinthians 15:22, “For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.”

1 John 2, verse 2, tells us that no one is left out of Jesus’ atoning work for humanity.

“He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.”

Since every person’s sins are already forgiven, what is the need for faith?

Simply this: We cannot participate in something we either don’t know about or don’t believe is true. It would be like having a million dollars in the bank but never knowing about it. Or maybe knowing about it, but not caring. In either case, the million dollars would do us no good, even though it is sitting in our account.

In a similar way, our salvation means nothing to us unless we believe it…

Sadly, it seems from certain passages in the Bible that some people don’t want God’s salvation, even though in Christ it’s already theirs. Maybe they love evil so much that they want nothing to do with good. Yet Jesus died and rose again for them as certainly as he did for the most devoted of his saints.

Refusal of God’s love cannot diminish his love; Jesus died for us even while we were sinners, while were his enemies, as we’re told in Romans 5, verses 8 and 10.

That’s good news, because it means that God’s gift of salvation does not depend on you in any way..

First, contrary to what J. Tkach implied, salvation would be important whether one believed it or not.

It is sad that WCG simply does not understand much about the Bible or salvation anymore (the above seems to be a follow-up to another mistaken teaching I reported on earlier, please see WCG, Grace, and License).

Second, contrary to what J. Tkach wrote, the Bible does not teach that all sins ARE forgiven, only that they can be in the future:

Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come (Matthew 12:31-32).

While it is true that in that age to come almost all sins will be forgiven, since that age is NOT yet here, all sins that will be have NOT yet been forgiven–they have only all been atoned for.

Third, WCG simply no longer seems to understand that no one will be saved UNLESS they repent and accept Christ. Thus in several important ways, whether or not YOU accept the salvation offered by God most certainly does depend on YOU in certain ways.

Notice what Jesus told His disciples:

…that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And you are witnesses of these things (Luke 24:47-48).

Notice what one of those disciples, Peter was inspired to preach:

“Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call” (Acts 2:38-39).

Notice that only after repentance and the acceptance of Christ is there a remission of sins. Not before.

WCG seems hesistant to tell the whole story.

Why?

Because it would then have to address the question, “What is sin?”

To which the Apostle John was inspired to write:

…sin is the transgression of the law (1 John 3:4, KJV).

Since one is repenting from transgressing the law, then WCG would either have to say that we should keep sinning or change (which is what the word repent actual implies).

What did the Apostle Paul teach?

Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law (Romans 3:31).

And that is true. Real Christians accept the sacrifice of Christ (cf. Hebrews 9:26; 11:4), real Christians repent (Acts 2:38), real Christians attempt to follow Christ (1 Corinthians 1:11–and Jesus kept the commandments Himself–see John 15:10), and real Christians strive to overcome sin (Hebrews 12:4).

It is only those who promote evil that do not teach that Christians should try to keep God’s commandments.

Several articles of possibly related interest may include:

What Did Jesus Teach About the Ten Commandments? This article quotes what Jesus actually said about them (His words are in red).
Were the Ten Commandments Nailed to the Cross? Some have said so. This article provides some biblical quotes to answer this important question.
What Did Paul Actually Teach About the Ten Commandments? Many say Paul taught against the ten commandments. Is this true? This article quotes Paul with his words in green.
Are the Ten Commandment Still in Effect? This article quotes the ten commandments and combines some of the previous articles into one article about the ten commandments. The commandments are shown at Mount Sinai, before Mount Sinai, in the teachings of Jesus, after the crucifixion, and in the teachings of Paul. It addresses the most common “traditions of men” regarding them as well.
Were the Pharisees Condemned for Keeping the Law or Reasoning Around it? Many believe that the Pharisees were condemned for keeping the law, but what does your Bible say? If they were not condemned for that, what were they condemned for?
The Ten Commandments Reflect Love, Breaking them is Evil Some feel that the ten commandments are a burden. Is that what Jesus, Paul, Peter, James, and John taught?
Was the Commandment to Love the Only Command? Some have stated that John’s writings teach this, but is that what the Bible really says?
The Ten Commandments and the Early Church Did Jesus and the Early Church keep the ten commandments? What order were they in? Here are quotes from the Bible and early writings.
Universal Offer of Salvation: There Are Hundreds of Verses in the Bible Supporting the Doctrine of True Apocatastasis Do you believe what the Bible actually teaches on this? Will all good things be restored? Does God’s plan of salvation take rebellion and spiritual blindness into account?
Hope of Salvation: How the Living Church of God differ from most Protestants How the Living Church of God differs from mainstream/traditional Protestants, is perhaps the question I am asked most by those without a Church of God background.

Ambassador Foreclosed

Saturday, June 14th, 2008

Although it is no longer owned by any COG, those who were once affiliated with the old WCG were familiar with the old Ambassador campus. My wife and I were married in one of the buildings shown above.

COGwriter

The old Ambassador campus made the news this week. Notice what the Los Angeles Times reported:

Ambassador campus development in Pasadena foreclosed

Los Angeles Times

An ambitious development project that included hundreds of condominiums, apartments and a senior housing complex on the former Ambassador College campus has been foreclosed, Pasadena officials said Tuesday.

The foreclosure encompassed most of the project’s 20 acres, one of the prime parcels of land in the city. The project had the support of historical preservationists and was viewed as a key component in the development of a long dormant section of Old Town Pasadena.

Ambassador West, as the project was called, was part of a larger plan to add hundreds of housing units and thousands of square feet of commercial space on and around the former campus.

Pasadena Mayor Bill Bogaard said those other projects, including the “urban village” Westgate, will not be affected by the foreclosure and downplayed its immediate effect…

The future of the landmark Ambassador site has been debated by residents for years.

The property, with lush gardens with fountains and manicured lawns, is dotted with well-kept period-revival mansions that were once part of “Millionaires’ Row” along Orange Grove Boulevard. It was owned for decades by the Worldwide Church of God…

Neither the owners of the land, whose identities haven’t been disclosed, nor project officials could be reached for comment…
The company’s 5.7 acres of the Ambassador West territory was not part of the foreclosure. Krueger said it has not determined what to do with the property.

The project had been opposed by Harvest Rock Church, a nondenominational Christian congregation on the campus that was concerned that the plan was too big and would overshadow the Ambassador College’s celebrated architecture and landscaping, which includes a reflecting pool.

On Tuesday, news of the foreclosure was welcomed.

“We’re just glad it’s over,” said Doug Huse, general manager for the church. “We’re tired of it. This is a new beginning.”

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-pasadena11-2008jun11,0,5335030.story

The above foreclosure is not really a surprise as there have been problems with the old Ambassador property for some time (see Ambassador Developer Receivership and More Ambassador Development Woes).

While the old WCG has been “transformed from truth to paganism”, the old campus has been transformed from an religious institution recapturing true values to being split between a worldly church combined with failed developers. FWIW, I would tend to describe Harvest Rock as a “pentecostal” church as opposed to “nondenominational”.

The Pope, the Irish, the English, and the Libson Treaty

Friday, June 13th, 2008

Pope Benedict XVI Sitting & Wearing White

Pope Benedictus XVI and the Flag of the European Union

Yesterday, there was a major vote in Ireland as to whether to accept or reject the EU’s Lisbon treaty.

Pope Benedict apparently spoke to the Irish:

The pope has timed a speech about the role of Ireland in European history to coincide with the eve of the Lisbon Referendum.
BBC – June 12, 2008

Pope Benedict has used his weekly audience to praise the central role of Irish missionaries in European history, a day before voters go to the polls to decide the future of the Lisbon Treaty.

Pope Benedict praised St Columbanus in his weekly audience.

Speaking to tens of thousands of pilgrims in St Peter’s Square, the Pope gave a sermon about the life of St Columbanus, an Irish monk born in 543 who travelled to Europe to spread Christianity.

In his speech charting the saint’s life, Pope Benedict said that Columbanus could be called a “European saint”…

The saint was an early advocate of European unity, at least in religious terms.

The church was split with schisms in northern Italy, prompting Columbanus to write “a letter to Pope Boniface IV to convince him to make certain decisive steps towards re-establishing unity”.

Pope Benedict described Columbanus as one of the founding “Fathers of Europe”.

“(Columbanus) spent all his energies to nourish the Christian roots of the nascent Europe.

“With his spiritual strength, with his faith, with his love of God and neighbour, he became one of the Fathers of Europe, showing us today the way to those roots from which our continent may be reborn,” he said.

While the Pope did not urge a “yes” vote in Ireland, church sources said that the timing of his speech would not have been accidental.

He has frequently spoken about the need for European unity and for a Europe as a “community” which he has said must acknowledge its Christian heritage.

He also chose the name Benedict, as the last Pope Benedict was a vigorous advocate of European unity, striving to avoid the outbreak of World War. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7450602.stm

However, at this time it looks like not enough heeded him according to the Los Angeles Times earlier this morning:

DUBLIN, Ireland — In a stunning setback to efforts to draft a modern new European constitution, voters in Ireland today appeared to reject a new reform treaty, throwing the European Union’s future governance into doubt.

Irish Justice Minister Dermot Ahern conceded the referendum on the new Lisbon treaty, which requires ratification by all 27 EU members to take effect, was headed for near-certain defeat, though official results had not yet been declared.

“To a certain extent, we’re in uncharted waters,” he told reporters. “Obviously, it’s disappointing. It’s quite clear there’s a very substantial no vote.”

More than a dozen countries so far have ratified the complex treaty, which establishes the EU’s first full-time president and allows many decisions in the recently expanded union to be taken by qualified majority vote, rather than unanimous consent.

Ireland was the only nation whose constitution required a public vote, and the result is that the Emerald Isle’s 3 million voters have thrown a wrench into a constitution for more than 490 million residents of Europe.

It was unclear how the EU would proceed in light of the results of Thursday’s voting; some analysts have suggested the treaty, signed at Lisbon in December, could be reworked and put to a new vote…

Other opponents argued that the treaty could threaten Ireland’s traditional military neutrality. “This treaty will increase militarization and neoconservatism of Europe,” said Treasa O’Brien, who voted in Cork. “I’m pro-European, but the EU started as an economic system. The treaty will turn the EU into a superstate, and that was not its original intention.” http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-ireland14-2008jun14,0,2826243.story

Both Bible prophecy and recent EU history suggest that the EU will still try to move forward no matter how people vote (this Treaty of Lisbon essentially replaced the EU constitution that voters in France and the Netherlands rejected a while back). Europe is destined to become a superstate no matter how often any vote against it.

It was interesting to me that the Pope praised Columbanus (also spelled Columbkille)–something he would not have done if he were trying to get the English to vote for the treaty. Notice what that one of the one the Pope just called one of the “Father of Europe” wrote:

It has been foretold in 597, by ST. Columbkille…”…English nobility shall sink into horrible life–wars shall be proclaimed against them, by means of which the franatically proud race shall be subdued, and will be harassed from every quarter. The English shall dwindle into disreputable people and shall forever be derived of power” (Culligan E. The Last World War and the End of Time. The book was blessed by Pope Paul VI, 1966. TAN Books, Rockford (IL), pp. 118-119).

Perhaps this would be a good time to share what other Catholic writers/saints/prophets have taught. Several Roman Catholic prophecies appear to generally state is that there will be some type of civil unrest in parts of Europe which occur after England becomes less powerful, and that ultimately England will be severely chastised. Here are several along those lines (note, I believe that the “Great Monarch” will be the final King of the North):

Saint Cataldus of Tarentino (c. 500): “The Great Monarch will be in war till he is forty years of age….he will assemble great armies and expel tyrants from his empire. He will conquer England and other island empires” (Connor, Edward. Prophecy for Today. Imprimatur + A.J. Willinger, Bishop of Monterey-Fresno; Reprint: Tan Books and Publishers, Rockford (IL), 1984, p.30).

The Ecstatic of Tours…”When everyone believes that peace is assured, when everyone least expects it, the great happenings will begin. Revolution will break out in Italy almost at the same time as in France. For some time, the Church will be without a Pope. England, too, will have much to suffer…” (Dupont, Yves. Catholic Prophecy: The Coming Chastisement. TAN Books, Rockford (IL), 1973, p.37)

St. Edward (11th century). “The extreme corruption and wickedness of the English nation has provoked the just anger of God. When malice has reached the fullness of its measure, God will, in His wrath, send to the English people evil spirits who will punish and afflict them with severity by separating the green tree from its parent stem the length of three furlongs. But at last this same tree, through the compassionate mercy of God and without any national assistance, shall return to its original root, reflourish, and bear abundant fruit.” (Dupont, p.18)

It is to be noted, too, that there was no English nation as such in the 11th Century, but only a kingdom of the Angles and Saxons. This discrepancy, however, may be due to a mis-transcription. (the preceding was the comment from Dupont personally on the Edward’s prophecy, p.19)

St. Malachy (12th century). “Ireland will suffer English oppression for a week of centuries, but will preserve her fidelity to God and His Church. At the end of that time she will be delivered, and the English in turn must suffer severe chastisement. Ireland, however, will be instrumental in bringing back the English to the unity of Faith.” (Dupont, p.15)

Catholic sources claim that the first portion of the above Malachy prophecy has been fulfilled. But notice that the above also claims that England will suffer from severe chastisement. And apparently many those that survive will become Catholic (probably through desperation, coercion, deception, and/or force).

Balthassar Mas (17th century). “I saw a land swallowed up by the sea and covered with water. But afterwards, I saw that the sea receded little by little and the land could be seen again. The tops of the towers in the city rose again above the water and appeared more beautiful than before, and I was told that this land was England.’ (Dupont, p.32)

The above may have several interpretations. Figuratively, it may mean that Protestant England is to be destroyed and will become Catholic. Or it may simply mean some type of tsunami will affect England. However, notice that England is prophesied to become Catholic:

Bl. Anna-Maria Taigi (19th century). Whole nations will come back to the Church and the face of the earth will be renewed. Russia, England, and China will come into the Church. (Dupont, p.45)

Of course, Russia and China will finally turn on the European power (Daniel 11:44-45), but the Bible shows that for a while “All who dwell on the earth will worship him {the European beast power}, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world” (Revelation 13:8).

It is also interesting that an Roman Catholic prophecy states that England will leave the Roman Catholic Church, be punished, then return. Notice the following prophecy and commentary from The Catholic Encyclopedia:

Prophecy of St. Edward the Confessor

Ambrose Lisle Philipps in a letter to the Earl of Shrewsbury dated 28 October, 1850, in giving a sketch of English Catholic history, relates the following vision or prophecy made by St. Edward:

“During the month of January, 1066, the holy King of England St. Edward the Confessor was confined to his bed by his last illness in his royal Westminster Palace. St. Aelred, Abbott of Rievaulx, in Yorkshire, relates that a short time before his happy death, this holy king was wrapt in ecstasy, when two pious Benedictine monks of Normandy, whom he had known in his youth, during his exile in that country, appeared to him, and revealed to him what was to happen to England in future centuries, and the cause of the terrible punishment. They said: ‘The extreme corruption and wickedness of the English nation has provoked the just anger of God. When malice shall have reached the fullness of its measure, God will, in His wrath, send to the English people wicked spirits, who will punish and afflict them with great severity, by separating the green tree from its parent stem the length of three furlongs. But at last this same tree, through the compassionate mercy of God, and without any national (governmental) assistance, shall return to its original root, reflourish and bear abundant fruit.’ After having heard these prophetic words, the saintly King Edward opened his eyes, returned to his senses, and the vision vanished. He immediately related all he had seen and heard to his virgin spouse, Edgitha, to Stigand, Archbishop of Canterbury, and to Harold, his successor to the throne, who were in his chamber praying around his bed.” (See “Vita beati Edwardi regis et confessoris”, from manuscript Selden 55 in Bodleian Library, Oxford.)

The interpretation given to this prophecy is remarkable when applied to the events which have happened. The spirits mentioned in it were the Protestant innovators who pretended, in the sixteenth century, to reform the Catholic Church in England. The severance of the green tree from its trunk signifies the separation of the English Church from the root of the Catholic Church, from the Roman See. This tree, however, was to be separated from its life-giving root the distance of “three furlongs”. These three furlongs are understood to signify three centuries, at the end of which England would again be reunited to the Catholic Church, and bring forth flowers of virtue and fruits of sanctity. The prophecy was quoted by Ambrose Lisle Philipps on the occasion of the reestablishment of the Catholic hierarchy in England by Pope Pius IX in 1850 (Devine, Arthur. Transcribed by Marie Jutras. Prophecy. The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume XII. Published 1911. New York: Robert Appleton Company. Nihil Obstat, June 1, 1911. Remy Lafort, S.T.D., Censor. Imprimatur. +John Cardinal Farley, Archbishop of New York).

Of course, the interpretation that three furlongs meant that England would become Roman Catholic in three centuries was in error, but notice that the Roman Catholics believe that England was prophesied to separate from the Roman Catholic Church, that it will be severely punished, and that it will again become Roman Catholic (AFTER it is punished).

D.A. Birch (Catholic writer commenting on the above “prophecy”) stated , “It is interesting to note that the National (Government) of England is foretold to have no role in the return of England to Roman allegiance. As a matter of fact, a number of prophecies specifically state that England will be reevangelized by the French and Irish after England has suffered a terrible and specific chastisement” (Birch, DA. Trial, Tribulation & Triumph: Before During and After Antichrist. Queenship Publishing Company, Goleta (CA), 1996, pp. 308-309).

Now while the following prophecy is not specific to the English-speaking peoples, I believe that Roman Catholics will believe that the destruction of the USA and its English-speaking allies by the beast power will be justified by it:

St. Francis of Paola (Born in Italy, 15th century). “By the grace of the Almighty, the Great Monarch will annihilate heretics and unbelievers. He will have a great army, and angels will fight at his side. He will be like the sun among the stars. His influence will spread over the whole earth. All in all, there will be on earth twelve Kings, one Emperor, one Pope and a few Princes. They will all lead holy lives.” (Dupont, p.38)

The above shows that Roman Catholics will believe that God is on the side of the beast. A peculiar part of the above is that the Roman Catholics believe that there will be twelve kings associated with what we call the beast, yet the Bible states that there are ten (Daniel 7:24; Revelation 17:12)–however this is not necessarily a contradiction. Daniel 7:24 says the last kingdom arises from ten kings, while Revelation 17:12 states that ten kings will give their power to the beast. However, it may be that after the beast power is fully formed, that he will add two additional kings and apparently some princes.

Those in the UK need to be very leery of the European Union. The Bible indicates that a massive European power, apparently dominated by the descendants of ancient Assyria (modern Germany), will destroy the Anglo-American powers.

Some articles of possibly related interest may include:

Europa, the Beast, and Revelation Where did Europe get its name? What might Europe have to do with the Book of Revelation? What about “the Beast”?
Who is the King of the North? Is there one? Do biblical and Roman Catholic prophecies point to the same leader? Should he be followed? Who will be the King of the North discussed in Daniel 11? Is a nuclear attack prophesied to happen to the English-speaking peoples of the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand? When do the 1335 days, 1290 days, and 1260 days (the time, times, and half a time) of Daniel 12 begin?
Do Certain Catholic Prophecies About Antichrist Warn Against Jesus? Will the final “Anti-Christ” be Jewish, insist on Saturday, be opposed to the trinity, and bring in the millennium? Catholic writings indicate this, but what does the Bible show?
Which Is Faithful: The Roman Catholic Church or the Living Church of God? Do you know that both groups shared a lot of the earliest teachings? Do you know which church changed? Do you know which group is most faithful to the teachings of the apostolic church? Which group best represents true Christianity? This documented article answers those questions.
Two Horned Beast of Revelation and 666 This article explains how the LCG views this, and compares this to Ellen White.