Archive for November, 2009

CGG’s Born Again Doctrinal Change

Tuesday, November 3rd, 2009

COGwriter

CGG’s John Ritenbaugh has instituted a variety of doctrinal changes within his group.  While groups like LCG teach that Christians are begotten by the Holy Spirit and born-again at the resurrection, CGG is now teaching a concept more similar to that of certain (but not all) Protestants:

How does one explain “this or that” regarding this “born again” question? It is very helpful to know that being “born again” is an entirely spiritual operation…

It should be easy to understand why there can be confusion over the words. We can interpret it only by what they can legitimately be translated into. They can be translated as “begotten again, “born again,” “born anew,” or “born from above.” And this may seem a little bit wild, but it is true. It can even be understood as “from a beginning” or “at a beginning.”

Now on the basis of how God deals with us in the rest of the New Testament, and after John 2 and 3, it must be understood as “born again,” and not “begotten again.” God never even one time speaks of us as being in a womb as an embryo or a fetus…Nicodemus’ error was sincere, and Herbert Armstrong’s error was sincere. (Source: Ritenbaugh J. Born Again Sermon, Part 2, June 20, 2009)

So while John Ritenbaugh admits that the terms translated as “born again” can be translated as “begotten again”, he has decided against the idea of teaching that God spiritually begets His offspring in this life who are then born again at the resurrection.

CGG has made doctrinal changes, as well as inaccurate changes (in my opinion) to prophetic understandings as well.  All should compare what their church teaches with the Bible.

According to Hislop’s The Two Babylons, being born again on earth is a long-standing pagan belief.  Hislop quotes Asiatic Researchers (Vol. vii, p. 271, London, 1806) that the Hindoo Brahmins boast that they are “twice born” men. Thus, the “born again now” idea apparently originally existed outside of Christianity.

Perhaps I should add that even in the second century (the century just after the Book of Revelation was written), there was at least one Christian writer who wrote that we are not to be “born again” until the resurrection. Notice what Theophilus of Antioch wrote,

But the moon wanes monthly, and in a manner dies, being a type of man; then it is born again, and is crescent, for a pattern of the future resurrection” (Theophilus of Antioch. To Autolycus, Book 2, Chapter XV. Translated by Marcus Dods, A.M. Excerpted from Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 2. Edited by Alexander Roberts & James Donaldson. American Edition, 1885. Online Edition Copyright © 2004 by K. Knight).

In the third century, Hippolytus (the greatest of the early theologians according to Roman Catholic scholars) understood that we are begotten by the Holy Spirit at baptism. Notice what he wrote:

This is the Spirit that was given to the apostles in the form of fiery tongues. This is the Spirit that David sought when he said, “Create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew a right spirit within me.” Of this Spirit Gabriel also spoke to the Virgin, “The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee.” By this Spirit Peter spake that blessed word, “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.” By this Spirit the rock of the Church was stablished. This is the Spirit, the Comforter, that is sent because of thee, that He may show thee to be the Son of God.

Come then, be begotten again, O man, into the adoption of God…For he who comes down in faith to the layer of regeneration, and renounces the devil, and joins himself to Christ; who denies the enemy, and makes the confession that Christ is God; who puts off the bondage, and puts on the adoption,–he comes up from the baptism brilliant as the sun, flashing forth the beams of righteousness, and, which is indeed the chief thing, he returns a son of God and joint-heir with Christ (Hippolytus. The Discourse on the Holy Theophany, Chapters 9,10. Excerpted from Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 5. Edited by Alexander Roberts & James Donaldson. American Edition, 1886. Online Edition Copyright © 2005 by K. Knight).

Also, even in the fourth century, it was understood that Christians are first begotten, that Jesus was the first born of the dead, and that we become born again later. For even though he had other heretical ideas, Athanasius apparently understood this as he wrote,

For God not only created them to be men, but called them to be sons, as having begotten them. For the term ‘begat’ is here as elsewhere expressive of a Son, as He says by the Prophet, ‘I begat sons and exalted them;’ and generally, when Scripture wishes to signify a son, it does so, not by the term ‘created,’ but undoubtedly by that of ‘begat.’ And this John seems to say, ‘He gave to them power to become children of God, even to them that believe on His Name; which were begotten not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.’ And here too the cautious distinction is well kept up, for first he says ‘become,’ because they are not called sons by nature but by adoption; then he says ‘were begotten,’ because they too had received at any rate the name of son…He became man, that, as the Apostle has said, He who is the ‘Beginning’ and ‘First-born from the dead, in all things might have the preeminence…He said to be ‘First-born from the dead,’ not that He died before us, for we had died first; but because having undergone death for us and abolished it, He was the first to rise, as man, for our sakes raising His own Body. Henceforth He having risen, we too from Him and because of Him rise in due course from the dead…He is called ‘First-born among many brethren’ because of the relationship of the flesh, and ‘First-born from the dead,’ because the resurrection of the dead is from Him and after Him…And as He is First-born among brethren and rose from the dead ‘the first fruits of them that slept;’ so, since it became Him ‘in all things to have the preeminence (Athanasius. Discourse II Against the Arians, Chapters 59,60,61,63,64. Excerpted from Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, Second Series, Volume 4. Edited by Philip Schaff and Henry Wace. American Edition, 1892. Online Edition Copyright © 2005 by K. Knight).

Thus the idea of being begotten when converted and being born again at the resurrection was an original teaching among professing Christians.

In addition, even today, the Eastern Orthodox Church teaches:

Frank Schaeffer…calls the standard evangelical doctrine a “false bill of goods.” “The simplistic ‘born-again’ formula for instant painless ‘salvation’ is not only a misunderstanding, I believe it is a heresy. It contradicts the teaching of Christ in regard to the narrow, hard, ascetic, difficult way of salvation.” (Clendenin D.B. ed. Eastern Orthodox Theology, 2nd ed. Baker Academic, 2003, p. 268).

I consider CGG’s change also to be another one of its heresies.

Some articles of possibly related interest may include:

Born Again: A Question of Semantics? Many Protestants use the term born-again. Do they know where the concept came from or does it matter? Are you born or begotten upon proper baptism?
What Did Early Christians Understand About the Resurrection? Is there more than one future resurrection? Did early Christians teach a physical resurrection? Did early Christians teach three resurrections?
Deification: Did the Early Church Teach That Christians Would Become God? What does the Bible teach? Is deification only a weird or cultic idea?
The History of Early Christianity Are you aware that what most people believe is not what truly happened to the true Christian church? Do you know where the early church was based? Do you know what were the doctrines of the early church? Is your faith really based upon the truth or compromise?
Church of the Great God This group, led by John Ritenbaugh, says the bride must first be made ready (hence gospel proclamation is not its high priority). Might this lead to a selfish bride? This group also seriously seems to misunderstand end-time prophecy.

2012, Nostradamus Effect, and David Pack

Monday, November 2nd, 2009


Nostradamus

COGwriter

2012 has been in the media a lot lately.  Here is one story related to it and The History Channel:

The Age of Nostradamus

November 2, 2009

If you are the credulous type, there has never been a better time to treat yourself to some luxuries, at least if the terms of the deal are right. If the merchant or manufacturer says “no payments or interest through 2012,” go for it.

At least that’s what you conclude watching the History Channel.

For many years, the network was nicknamed the “Hitler Channel” because of all the shows it ran on World War II and the Nazis. Today, a better nickname would be the “Nostradamus Channel.” Hardly a day goes by without at least one show touting some doomsday scenario and how it was foretold.

RCG’s improperly self-titled “Apostle”, David Pack, is scheduled to be on The Nostradamus Effect on November 11, 2009 according to his website.  I trust that despite the many issues I have about him, he will not echo the chorus of the many “talking heads” that suggest that a tremendous amount of end time prophecies really are supposed to converge in 2012.

The reality is that many are going raise false expectations about 2012 and this will turn people away from believing in any prophecy.  While the truth is that disasters are coming,  from a biblical perspective there is no way that the world can end in a flood (or any other way) by the end of 2012.  That is just a bit too soon.

Some items of related interest may include:

End of Mayan Calendar 2012–Might 2012 Mean Something? Are there Mayan calendar predictions for change in 2012? Changes were centuries ago predicted by the Hopi Native Americans. Do Mayan/Hindu/Hopi/Buddhist/New Age/Nostradamus prophecies have any value here? Why might Satan have inspired this date? Does the Dresden codex show destruction of the earth by flood? Can the great tribulation start before 2012? How might Barack Obama be involved in 2012?
2012 and the Rise of the Secret Sect This is a link related to a book by Bob Thiel (COGwriter).  The book explains what will, may, and will not happen in 2012–but more importantly it explains the order of many prophetic sequences that will affect everyone.  The book is now available now from Amazon.com in English, Spanish, and German.  This link also has YouTube videos related to 2012.

Sanhedrin Threatens God’s Judgment Upon the United Nations

Monday, November 2nd, 2009

Jerusalem

COGwriter

In a move that seems to be a first, the Sanhedrin has indicated that God’s judgment is going to come upon the United Nations if it has a particular type of debate this Wednesday:

Sanhedrin to UN: Goldstone Will Bring Judgment Upon You
Israel National News – Nov 2, 2009
The Sanhedrin has warned the UN General Assembly not to hold a plenum debate this Wednesday on the anti-Israel Goldstone Report.In a letter to UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon and the UN’s member states, the Sanhedrin warns that continued consideration of what it calls the “hostile, fallacious, and malicious” Goldstone document will bring upon the world the catastrophic events described in the Bible’s Book of Joel, Chapter 4….

“I will gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshafat; and I will enter into judgment with them there for My people and for My heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and divided My land… And the children of Judah and the children of Jerusalem you have sold to the children of the Jevanim, in order to distance them from their border.  Behold I will arouse them from the place where you sold them, and I will return your retribution upon your head. And I will sell your sons and daughters into the hands of the children of Judah… Announce this among the nations: Prepare war, arouse the mighty men… Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruning hooks into spears… Gather and come, all you nations from around – and they shall gather; there the Lord shall break your mighty men… for their evil is great…

“And the Lord shall roar from Zion, and from Jerusalem He shall give forth His voice, and the heavens and earth shall quake, and the Lord is a shelter to His people and a stronghold for the children of Israel. And you shall know that I, the Lord your God, dwell in Zion, My holy mount, and Jerusalem shall be holy, and strangers shall no longer pass through there…. And Egypt shall become desolate, and Edom shall be a desert waste, because of the violence done to the children of Judah, because they shed innocent blood in their land. But Judah shall remain forever, and Jerusalem throughout all generations.”

The letter is signed by Rabbi Dov Stein, Secretary of the Sanhedrin, and Rabbi Prof. Hillel Weiss, spokesman.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/134185

While God’s judgment (called “the day of the Lord” in scripture; see Can the Great Tribulation Begin in 2009, 2010, or 2011?) will come upon this world, linking Joel 4 to the debate is not something I would have done for three reasons.  They are that Joel only has 3 chapters, the above comes from chapter 3, and that I do not believe that the UN debate is really the subject of the passage.

The Sanhedrin is most known for its efforts to restore sacrifices and possibly rebuild the temple (see Temple In Jerusalem is Not Required For Sacrifices).

They are also mentioned in the following article:

Why is a Jewish Temple in Jerusalem Not Required? Although people like Timothy LaHaye  teach a third Jewish temple is required, who is ‘the temple of God” in the New Testament?  This new article goes over , in much more detail, the biblical reasons why a a third Jewish temple in Jerusalem is not necessary.

Major Bankruptcies in Japan and the USA

Monday, November 2nd, 2009


Tokyo, Japan

COGwriter

Another major USA bank has filed for bankruptcy protection:

CIT Group Files Bankruptcy, Seeks to Reduce Debt (Update1)

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aGugBgO.xUZw

The USA is on shaky grounds financially and will likely remain there until it falls completely (see ).

But there are also serious rumblings in Japan:

Japan is drifting helplessly towards a dramatic fiscal crisis. For 20 years the world’s second-largest economy has been able to borrow cheaply from a captive bond market, feeding its addiction to Keynesian deficit spending – and allowing it to push public debt beyond the point of no return.
Telegraph, London – Nov 1, 2009  by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

The situation in Japan will likely ultimately result in it having a closer arrangement with China, as Japan is likely to be one of the “kings of the sunrise” that Bible prophecy discusses (see Japan, Its Biblical Past and Future, Part 2: Prophecy).

The world financial order is changing right before our eyes and all should realize that a new order is in the works.

Some articles of possibly related interest may include:

Japan, Its Biblical Past and Future, Part 1: Any Witness? This is a brief article about Japan. Have they had any witness?
Japan, Its Biblical Past and Future, Part 2: Prophecy Japan in prophecy. What is prophesied for Japan? Will God save the Japanese?
Asia in Prophecy What is Ahead for Asia? Who are the “Kings of the East”? What will happen to nearly all the Chinese, Russians, Indians, Japanese, and others of Asia? China in prophecy, where? Who has the 200,000,000 man army related to Armageddon?
Anglo – America in Prophecy & the Lost Tribes of Israel Are the Americans, Canadians, British, Scottish, Welsh, Australians, Anglo-Southern Africans, and New Zealanders descendants of Joseph? Where are the lost ten-tribes of Israel? Who are the lost tribes of Israel? Will God punish the U.S.A., Canada, United Kingdom, and other Anglo nations? Why might God allow them to be punished first?
Prophecies of Barack Obama? Eight reasons why Barack Obama is apocalyptic and eight reasons why Barack Obama is not the Antichrist. This article includes many biblical and non-biblical prophecies, from around the world, that seem to discuss Barack Obama. Did Nostradamus predict Barack Obama dealing with the Antichrist?  Might Barack Obama set the stage for the kings of the North and South as at least one Shiite prophecy suggests?  This is the longest and most complete article on this page on Barack Obama prophecies. Read it and decide for yourself if President Obama seems to be fulfilling various prophecies.
Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United States Some claim that Barack Obama is the prophesied “son of Kenya”, based up an early 20th century writing.

Egpyt’s Gamal Mubarak: A Possible King of the South

Sunday, November 1st, 2009


Gamal Mubarak (http://brucesmideastsoundbites.blogspot.com/2008_09_01_archive.html)

COGwriter

We in the Living Church of God suspect that the final King of the South could possibly come from Egypt.  Here is some information on one who is considered to be a possible future leader of Egypt:

Egypt’s Political Winds Blow in Favor of President’s Son
Wall Street Journal – Oct 31, 2009

CAIRO — The annual convention this weekend of Egypt’s ruling party will offer a new opportunity for the nation to scrutinize Gamal Mubarak, the son of 81-year-old President Hosni Mubarak, amid speculation that he is being groomed to succeed his father.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125695395695920311.html

Whether or not Gamal Mubarack will be the final King of the South, or even lead Egypt itself, is still a big question mark.  But the reality is that the final King of the South is alive now and it may be possible that  Gamal Mubarack could be a candidate for that role.  We will all have to watch and see.

Two articles of possibly related interest may include:

Is There A Future King of the South? Some no longer believe there needs to be. Might Egypt, Islam, Iran, Arabs, or Ethiopia be involved? What does the Bible say?
The Arab World In the Bible, History, and Prophecy The Bible discusses the origins of the Arab world and discusses the Middle East in prophecy. What is ahead for the Middle East and those who follow Islam?