Archive for July, 2010

Turkey and the EU

Sunday, July 11th, 2010


Ruins of Smyrna (Izmir, Turkey)

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Turkey has lately seemed a bit less pro-Western in some of its policies.  Its relationship with the EU also seems to be a bit more strained recently.  Today, the following was reported about it and the EU:

Turkey goes cool on joining the European Union as it falls for the lure of the East
Telegraph – July 11, 2010…

“If we don’t join, it will be Europe’s problem, not ours,” said Mr Canayaz, 25, who was relieved to be watching the recent Euro-zone crash from the outside rather than the inside…

Fadi Hakura…“For all the talk about that going in that direction, the country they would most like to become like is Germany.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/turkey/7883072/Turkey-goes-cool-on-joining-the-European-Union-as-it-falls-for-the-lure-of-the-East.html

My wife and I have been to Turkey on three occasions and when we discussed the EU with some Turks, basically we were told that the average Turk had little interest in the EU, but some of the political leaders were determined to move in that direction.

Since the current leadership of Turkey seems a little less pro-Western lately, it may be that little will happen with Turkey as far as being a potential nation to join the EU for some time.

Turkey is important to the Christian world for many reasons, including the fact that most of the books of the New Testament were written to or from people now living in the area which is now part of Turkish territory.  And the seven churches of Revelation 2 & 3 are all in Turkey (my wife and I have visited all of them at least once).

Items of possibly related interest may include the following:

The Churches of Revelation 2 & 3 from 31 A.D. to present: information on all of the seven churches of Revelation 2 & 3.
1. The Ephesus Church Era was predominant from 31 A.D. to circa 135 A.D. The Church of James, Peter, Paul, and John, etc.
2. The Smyrna Church Era was predominant circa 135 A.D. to circa 450 A.D. The Church led by Polycarp, Melito, Polycrates, etc.
3. The Pergamos Church Era was predominant circa 450 A.D. to circa 1050 A.D. An especially persecuted Church.
4. The Thyatira Church Era was predominant circa 1050 A.D. to circa 1600 A.D. The Church during the Inquisition.
5. The Sardis Church Era was predominant circa 1600 A.D. to circa 1933 A.D. Discusses early history of the Seventh Day Baptists, Seventh-day Adventists, and COG-7th Day.
6. The Philadelphia Church Era was predominant circa 1933 A.D. to 1986 A.D. The old Radio Church of God and old Worldwide Church of God, now basically the Living Church of God.
7. The Laodicean Church Era has been predominant circa 1986 A.D. to present. These are non-Philadelphians who mainly descended from the old WCG.
The New Testament Canon – From the Bible Itself This article, shows from the Bible and supporting sources, why the early Church knew which books were part of the Bible and which ones were not.

Catholic prophecy tells of a time when they expect the Turks to become Catholic:

Dionysius of Luxemberg (died 1682): a. “After the birth of Antichrist the people of the world will be very wicked and godless. People of real virtue will be very scarce. Pastors in many places will neglect the service of God, and will live with women. Even the religious will crave for worldly things. The churches will be dreary and empty like deserted barns…At the time when Antichrist is about twenty years of age the whole world will be without faith, subjects will be oppressed by rulers and others in authority. In every period of tribulation God aids His Church, and He will do it in the time before the coming of Antichrist. From the midst of His Church He will raise up a Christian ruler who will perform most remarkable deeds. With divine assistance this ruler will not only lead erring souls back to the true Faith but also deal a heavy blow to the foes of the empire; the Turks, to take away their empire and restore it to Christianity (Connor Edward. Prophecy for Today. Imprimatur + A.J. Willinger, Bishop of Monterey-Fresno; Reprint: Tan Books and Publishers, Rockford (IL), 1984, p.84).

Blessed Anna Maria Taigi (died 1837): “described to me the great ordeal ahead. Rome would be battered by revolutions…Millions of men would die by the sword in war and civil strife, other millions would perish in unforeseen death. Then entire nations would return to the unity of the Church, and many Turks, Pagans and Jews would be converted and their fervour cover with confusion the original Christians. In one word she told me that our Lord was intending to cleanse the world and His Church…” (Bessieres A. Wife, Mother and Mystic (Blessed Anna Maria Taigi). Nihil Obstat: Carlos Davis, S.T.L. Imprimatur: E Morrough Bernard, Westmonasteri, die Februari, 1952. Reprint TAN Books, Rockford (IL), 1982, p. 166).

Brother Louis Rocco (19th century): Terrible wars will rage all over Europe. God has long been patient with the corruption of morals; half of mankind He will destroy. Russia will witness many outrages. Great cities and small towns alike will be destroyed in a bloody revolution that will cause the death of half the population. In Istanbul (Constantinople) the Cross will replace the half-moon of Islamism, and Jerusalem will be the seat of a King. The southern Slavs will form a great Catholic Empire and drive out of Europe the Turks (Mohammedans), who will withdraw to North Africa and subsequently embrace the Catholic faith. (Dupont, Yves. Catholic Prophecy: The Coming Chastisement. TAN Books, Rockford (IL), 1973, p.76)

This is supposed to happen when the “Great Monarch” rises up and is supposedly to be assisted by Marian apparitions according to other Catholic prophecies.  In Turkey, near Ephesus, the Turks (which are almost all Muslims) actually  have an annual celebration related to Mary.  Mary is actually mentioned in the Koran more often than Jesus.  It would not surprise me if some Marian apparition may appear in Turkey in a few years as this may temporarily contribute to cooperation between “Catholic” and Islamic powers in the end time (cf. Daniel 11:27; Psalm 83).

It may be of interest to note that Nostradamus apparently felt that Turkey would end up betraying a coming Islamic leader:

Nostradamus: The Great Arab shall progress well forward, But betrayed shall be by the Byzantines. (Turks).

Comment on above from Catholic writer Yves Dupont: Here, we are told that Turkey will break its faith with the rest of the Arab world. (Dupont, p. 107).

Islamic prophecy tends to call this person the Imam Mahdi while Bible prophecy seems to identify him as the final King of the South.  But despite current comments from some in Turkey, the fact is that the Turks are fairly pragmatic and presuming they have reasons (like economic, military, and even possibly including apparitions claiming to be Mary) it is certainly within the realm of possibilities that they may assist the final King of the North overpower the final King of the South as is foretold in Daniel 11:40-43.

Some articles of possibly related interest may include:

Who is the King of the North? Is there one? Do biblical and Roman Catholic prophecies point to the same leader? Should he be followed? Who will be the King of the North discussed in Daniel 11? Is a nuclear attack prophesied to happen to the English-speaking peoples of the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand? When do the 1335 days, 1290 days, and 1260 days (the time, times, and half a time) of Daniel 12 begin? When does the Bible show that economic collapse will affect the United States?
Is There A Future King of the South? Some no longer believe there needs to be. Might Egypt, Islam, Iran, Arabs, or Ethiopia be involved? Might this King be called the Mahdi? What does the Bible say?
The Arab World In the Bible, History, and Prophecy The Bible discusses the origins of the Arab world and discusses the Middle East in prophecy. What is ahead for the Middle East and those who follow Islam? What about the Imam Mahdi?
Europa, the Beast, and Revelation Where did Europe get its name? What might Europe have to do with the Book of Revelation? What about “the Beast”? Is an emerging European power “the daughter of Babylon”? What is ahead for Europe?
Mary, the Mother of Jesus and the Apparitions Do you know much about Mary? Are the apparitions real? What happened at Fatima? What might they mean for the rise of the ecumenical religion of Antichrist? Are Protestants moving towards Mary? How do the Orthodox view Mary? How might Mary view her adorers?
Catholic Prophecies: Do They Mirror, Highlight, or Contradict Biblical Prophecies? People of all faiths may be surprised to see what various Roman and Orthodox Catholic prophets have been predicting as many of their predictions will be looked to in the 21st century.

Bigger Split Coming for UCG?

Sunday, July 11th, 2010

Laodicea
Ancient Laodicea

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The “Preaching the Gospel” website had the following (note: I bolded one sentence):

Split Beginning in United Church of God

A split is occurring in United Church of God centered around Mr. Leon Walker and the Latin American region of the church. It appears that UCG will lose some ministers and members, but how many is not clear. The situation is still evolving.There are many details (and opinions) concerning the cause of the split and its progress, which those who are interested can find online (I will give some links below). But here is a brief summary.

Mr. Walker had communicated with several ministers in his area via email informing them about issues and sharing his opinion on those issues, issues which could affect how they vote in UCG. UCG headquarters became aware of that communication, which it did not like, and asked Mr. Walker to cancel a trip he had planned in Latin America and come to headquarters to discuss the matter. Mr. Walker declined, and headquarters fired him as regional director (or coordinator) for the Latin American region. However, Mr. Walker has stated that he intends to continue to supervise the Latin American region, and it appears that a large number of UCG ministers and members in Latin America, probably a majority, intend to support Mr. Walker in this controversy and accept his continued supervision. UCG is separately incorporated in Latin America, and according to a statement by Mr. Walker, he was made director of that area by Mr. Armstrong in 1979, and in July of 1995 he and the ministers under his supervision joined with UCG as a group, and he has supervised that area since.

Mr. Dennis Luker has given a sermon talking about government in UCG, in which he pleads for unity and warns those who do not cooperate with UCG headquarters…

It is not a surprise that there is a split, but what has caught me a little by surprise is how fast it is happening.It still has not been made apparent what the core issues that divide the two camps in UCG are. It cannot just be personalities and positions. I do not believe that the ministry in UCG would be so carnal as to be split like this without some substantive issues at stake, even if those issues are not visibly on the table for the general membership yet.

There have been some hints, but I won’t comment till I find something more substantial.

I have listened carefully to Mr. Luker’s sermon. Towards the end he talks a little bit about UCG’s efforts to preach the truth to the public, and he seems very enthusiastic. Assuming his zeal is real, I appreciate it…Much of the sermon is a defense of UCG’s system of governance, but not much is from the Bible…Mr. Luker in his sermon implied that he is prepared to take strong action against ministers who will not accept the form of governance as it stands right now and accept the authority of the present Council of Elders and work with him and the Council to bring unity in the Church, and suggested a peaceful separation for those who cannot do that.

The separation of Mr. Leon Walker from the authority of UCG headquarters may be only the beginning of the leaving of many other ministers before next Passover.

The above is by an unnamed author who describes himself as:

I am a member of the Church of God and have been studying the Bible since the late sixties.

Whether UCG will have more splits is not really a question.  The question is whether or not it will have such major splits as to be massively disruptive to the organization and the loyalty of its long-term ministers and members.

From the resignation of its President Clyde Killough and others, to the replacement of Roy Holladay, and to the departure of much of Latin America, UCG has had a lot of problems in the past 3 months or so.

Its lack of biblical governance is one reason.  Its focus, priorities, and approach to people and doctrines are other ones.  As I have been writing for nearly 15 years, UCG has never really been totally “united”.

Some articles of possibly related interest may include:

Polycarp, Herbert W. Armstrong, and Roderick C. Meredith on Church Government What form of governance did the early church have? Was it hierarchical? Which form of governance would one expect to have in the Philadelphia remnant? The people decide and/or committee forms, odd dictatorships, or the same type that the Philadelphia era itself had?
Differences between the Living Church of God and United Church of God This article provides quotes information from the two largest groups which had their origins in WCG as well as commentary.
There are Many COGs: Why Support the Living Church of God? This is an article for those who wish to more easily sort out the different COGs. It really should be a MUST READ for current and former WCG/GCI members or any interested in supporting the faithful church. It also explains a lot of what the COGs are all about.
Should the Church Still Try to Place its Top Priority on Proclaiming the Gospel or Did Herbert W. Armstrong Change that Priority for the Work? Some say the Church should mainly feed the flock now as that is what Herbert W. Armstrong reportedly said. Is that what he said? Is that what the Bible says? What did Paul and Herbert W. Armstrong expect from evangelists?
The Laodicean Church Era has been predominant circa 1986 A.D. to present. These are non-Philadelphians who mainly descended from the old WCG.

LCG: USA Economy Faces Potential for Sudden Collapse

Sunday, July 11th, 2010


Dr. Douglas Winnail

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In its latest update, Dr Winnail of the Living Church of God wrote:

Handwriting on the Wall! On July 4, the United States, currently the most powerful nation in the world, celebrated 234 years of independence. The following day, on Monday, July 5, British-born Harvard professor and economic historian Niall Ferguson opened the 2010 Aspen Ideas Festival with a stark warning that the American “empire” could suddenly collapse—possibly within the next two years—due to the country’s rising debt! Citing historical examples, Ferguson pointed out that economic debt can lead to a loss of military power and global respect—which he saw firsthand on a recent trip to China—where China’s leaders were not interested in being lectured by Americans about economics or democracy. He noted that the recent financial crisis “has accelerated a fundamental shift in the balance of power with the U.S. shedding power and China absorbing it.” A number of factors are coming together—tax cuts, two wars, the financial recession, the resulting federal stimulus and bailout programs, and the growth of entitlement programs—that spell trouble for America in the days ahead. This is what Bible prophecies have long foretold. When nations forget God and turn away from His laws there will be serious consequences unless they repent (see Leviticus 26, Deuteronomy 28). The Scriptures, the Church of God and prominent historians have been warning for decades about the direction that America and other Israelite nations have been going—yet, those warnings have gone unheeded. Hopefully, we can learn from this and make the changes in our lives we need to make—before it is too late!

Dr. Winnail also wrote the following:

The U.S. and the British-descended peoples have enjoyed living off the resources of the world, but the prophet Habakkuk warns: “… Will not your creditors rise up suddenly? Will they not awaken who oppress you? And you will become their booty. Because you have plundered many nations, all the remnant of the people shall plunder you” (Habakkuk 2:7–8). (Winnail D. Sudden Calamities Ahead! Tomorrows’ World, Volume 10, Issue 5. Sept-Oct, 2008).

Hebrew prophets also warned repeatedly that the future demise of God’s chosen Israelite peoples would come “suddenly” and unexpectedly (Isaiah 9:14–15; 29:5; 30:13; Jeremiah 6:26; 15:8). Modern financial analysts realize this could happen if the nations lending to America decide to dump the dollar and call their loans. The prophet Habakkuk’s warning…, “Will not your creditors rise up suddenly?” (Habakkuk 2:7)—may also ring true for debt-plagued nations like America and its Israelite cousins. Prophetic scripture contains a sobering message: debt and disobedience lead to the demise of nations! (Winnail, D. Debt, Disobedience and Demise of Nations. Tomorrows’ World, Volume 12, Issue 2. March-April 2010, p. 27).

Here is some of what LCG’s Wyatt Ciesielka wrote:

The days are coming when, “Suddenly, your debtors will rise up in anger. They will turn on you and take all you have, while you stand trembling and helpless” (Habakkuk 2:7, NLT).(Ciesielka W. A New World Order is Coming.  Tomorrow’s World, Volume 11, Issue 1. January-February 2009).

Jeremiah 17:1-4 explains that national punishment is the eventual result of national sins and false religion.  Ultimately, this punishment will lead to our wealth, and even our people being given “as plunder” to foreign nations (vv. 3-4). Furthermore, this tragic collapse will happen suddenly and when many do not expect it (Isaiah 1:7, Habakkuk 2:7, I Thessalonians 5:3)…

Millennia ago, God warned of the consequences of debt and greed: “Will not your creditors rise up suddenly? Will they not awaken who oppress you? And you will become their booty. Because you have plundered many nations, all the remnant of the people shall plunder you…” (Habakkuk 2:6-8). (Ciesielka W.  Economic Collapse!  America’s debt crisis.  Commentary.  http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/cgi-bin/tw/commentary/tw-comm.cgi?category=Commentary1&item=1272484006)

Notice the scriptures from Habakkuk:

3 For the vision is yet for an appointed time; But at the end it will speak, and it will not lie. Though it tarries, wait for it; Because it will surely come, It will not tarry…5 Indeed, because he transgresses by wine, He is a proud man… 6 “Will not all these take up a proverb against him, And a taunting riddle against him, and say, ‘Woe to him who increases What is not his–how long? And to him who loads himself with many pledges’? 7 Will not your creditors rise up suddenly? Will they not awaken who oppress you? And you will become their booty. 8 Because you have plundered many nations, All the remnant of the people shall plunder you (Habakkuk 2:3,5,6-8).

The above prophecy will be fulfilled at the time of the end. It makes little sense that it would be directed towards the modern nation of Israel as it does not have enemy creditors. It must be a nation or group of nations with some prominence.

This will cause sudden destruction among those who are spiritually drunk:

3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. 4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. 5 You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness. 6 Therefore let us not sleep, as others do, but let us watch and be sober. 7 For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk are drunk at night. (1 Thessalonians 5:3-7)

Notice that both Paul and Habakkuk seem have tied drunkenness in with this sudden calamity (so did Jesus in Luke 21:34-35). Truly the Anglo-nations are not spiritually sober.

“Peace and safety” will be declared some time after the peace deal in Daniel 9:27.  And the Great Tribulation will begin 3 1/2 years later.  And the creditors will rising up just prior to the Great Tribulation. Then the Beast power will cause sudden destruction to affect the USA.

Also notice some other scriptures:

26 O daughter of my people, Dress in sackcloth  And roll about in ashes! Make mourning as for an only son, most bitter lamentation;  For the plunderer will suddenly come upon us. (Jeremiah 6:26)

12 Therefore thus says the Holy One of Israel:  “Because you despise this word, And trust in oppression and perversity, And rely on them,  13 Therefore this iniquity shall be to you Like a breach ready to fall, A bulge in a high wall, Whose breaking comes suddenly, in an instant. (Isaiah 30:12-13)

The Bible is clear that disaster can come suddenly.  And that it will.

But as the Apostle Paul wrote, we do not have to be unaware of this (1 Thessalonians 5:4).  He also said (as did Jesus in Luke 21:36) to watch (1 Thessalonians 5:7).

The current Obama administration, similar to the end of the last Bush administration, has been accelerating debt accumulation.  According to economists and biblical prophecy, this can cause a sudden collapse and lead to sudden destruction of the USA.

For more information, please check out the following:

Anglo – America in Prophecy & the Lost Tribes of Israel Are the Americans, Canadians, British, Scottish, Welsh, Australians, Anglo-Southern Africans, and New Zealanders descendants of Joseph? Where are the lost ten-tribes of Israel? Who are the lost tribes of Israel? Will God punish the U.S.A., Canada, United Kingdom, and other Anglo nations? Why might God allow them to be punished first?
Can the Great Tribulation Begin in 2010, 2011, or 2012? Can the Great Tribulation begin today? What happens before in the “beginning of sorrows”? What happens in the Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord? When is the earliest that the Great Tribulation can begin? What is the Day of the Lord?
Prophecies of Barack Obama? Are there biblical and non-biblical prophecies about Barack Obama. Did Nostradamus predict Barack Obama dealing with the Antichrist?  This is a lengthy article with many prophecies that Barack Obama may end up fulfilling.
Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United States Some claim that Barack Obama is the prophesied “son of Kenya”. Might Bible prophecy be fulfilled by him?

PCG/CEM/CGI/COGSC/UCG/LCG News

Saturday, July 10th, 2010

Rendering of “Armstrong Auditorium” (Rees Associates)

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Here are brief updates on many groups claiming to be part of the Church of God.

The first is from the Philadelphia Church of  God (PCG) which sent out a press release this week that was reported as follows:

Auditorium to open soon
The Oklahoman – July 7, 2010
EDMOND — The new $20 million, eight-story Armstrong Auditorium will open Sept. 5 on the campus of Herbert W. Armstrong College in Edmond. Immediately after grand opening ceremonies, the Armstrong College Choral Union and a professional orchestra will perform an encore presentation of Mendelssohn’s “Elijah.”

PCG tries hard to have the physical appearance of the old WCG.  It also sometimes acquires relics of it as well (for example, see PCG Added Another Relic).

The following concerns Christian Education Ministries’ (CEM) leader Ron Dart:

Wednesday, July 7, 2010 10:22 AM, CDT

After a visit with Ron and Allie last evening I just wanted to let everyone know that Ron is still making steady, but slow progress. Over the weekend Allie took Ron with her to run a few errands and get something to eat. This is the first time he has been out of the hospital or rehab facility in over 12 weeks and it was emotional, but encouraging and helpful. Also, he is eating better, but still needs to gain a better appetite. His physical rehab is going better and his daily walks are getting longer, up to 500 feet. Hopefully, they will remove the catheter today and start that process again to regain independence. His aphasia is becoming noticeably less, but it is still a big problem.

Ronald Dart has been struggling with health issues for some time now (see also CEM’s Ron Dart Injured).

The Church of God International (CGI) reported the following in its latest edition of its International News:

Are you considering writing for the International News? We welcome
you! Below are writers’ guidelines for your consideration.

·  Pays $.03 (3 cents) per published word for articles and booklets
on biblical/theological topics.
·  Accepts unsolicited manuscripts.
·  Pays on publication.
·  Does not pay for church reports, poetry, human-interest stories,
or personality profiles (items normally run in the International
News).
·  Buys all rights, including the right to reprint, in whole or in part,
in any format.

CGI is the first COG group I am aware of that actually apparently feels it needs to pay to get articles, other from its own staff (maybe others do it, but I am unaware of any).  CGI has not done well in the USA, but mainly has had its most success in Jamaica.

Church of God of Southern California (COGSC) intents to somehow support the troops of the US military:

” TREATS FOR THE TROOPS”

On July 10th, COGSC is supporting a new outreach brought
to us by John, Lorraine, and Jerry Norris. The Norris’ will
bring materials for us to assemble for those serving in
the Military. We will assemble them every other month.

It would seem that there are more appropriate projects for a group claiming to be COG than to provide “treats” (which probably are not “health food”) for the military, but this is apparently a COGSC priority.  More on Christians and military service can be found in the article Military Service and the Churches of God: Do Real Christians Participate in Carnal Warfare?

The United Church of God (UCG) wanted to remind its people that it is finally going to be on its first significant commercial television station:

July 9, 2010 Don’t forget that beginning on Sunday, July 11, 2010, our 30-minute Beyond Today television program will air on WGN America television, in 209 U.S. media markets, reaching a potential audience of 75 million U.S. households.. This includes every large and small city in the country except Chicago.

UCG began over 15 years ago and is finally trying to catch up to groups like the Living Church of God which has been on WGN for more than a decade.  Some, however, within UCG are opposed to this as a waste of funds.  We will see if UCG stays on the station for long or if it decides to eliminate it after a trial run or if when faced with what it perceives to be greater financial priorities.

Dr. Douglas Winnail of the Living Church of God (LCG) made the following as part of its official announcements earlier today:

This Saturday and Sunday, we will hold three Tomorrow’s World Special Presentations. Mr. Meredith will speak in Dallas, Texas; Mr. Ames will speak in Port-of-Spain, Trinidad; and I will make a presentation in the Roanoke, Virginia area…Mr. Wayne Pyle reports that Mr. Ames’ Tomorrow’s World television program, titled “Teach Me to Pray,” is expected to generate about 4,600 responses.

Perhaps I should also add that LCG reported the following about these lectures last week:

This week also, we mailed brochures for TWSPs in Thomasville, Georgia, and Lake City, Florida, scheduled for the end of July. Fifty-five presentations have been held so far this year, with more than 2,160 unique subscribers in attendance!

Essentially, LCG has been holding lectures throughout North America and the Caribbean to give people who watch its telecast/read its magazine an opportunity to learn more in person.  And many seem to be responding to these lectures (Mario Hernandez also puts on lectures for LCG for Latin America, in the Spanish language).

Some articles of possibly related interest may include the following:

Attending the Church of Choice This article discusses whose choice is important to worship God; should you attend the church of your choice or the church of God’s choice?
Unity: Which COG for You? Why so many groups? Why is there lack of unity in the Churches of God? Has it always been this way? What can/should be done about it?
The Philadelphia Church Era was predominant circa 1933 A.D. to 1986 A.D. The old Radio Church of God and old Worldwide Church of God, now basically the Living Church of God.
The Laodicean Church Era has been predominant circa 1986 A.D. to present. These are non-Philadelphians who mainly descended from the old WCG.
Here are Some Quotes from Herbert W. Armstrong on Laodicea and Holding Fast to Doctrine.
Teachings Unique to the Philadelphia Church of God Simply calling oneself ‘Philadelphia’ does not make one so (see Revelation 3:7-9), nor does Gerald Flurry calling himself “that prophet” make it so. This article provides many quotes from this group which tries to look faithful.
Teachings of Christian Educational Ministries Ron Dart’s confederation (not a church).
Teachings of the Church of God, International This article focuses on where CGI differs from the old WCG.
Church of God, Southern California This article discusses some of how David Antion’s group differs from the old WCG.
Differences between the Living Church of God and United Church of God This article provides quotes information from the two largest groups which had their origins in WCG as well as commentary.
There are Many COGs: Why Support the Living Church of God? This is an article for those who wish to more easily sort out the different COGs. It really should be a MUST READ for current and former WCG/GCI members or any interested in supporting the faithful church. It also explains a lot of what the COGs are all about.

ICG: Middle East, Nukes, Islam, and Europe

Saturday, July 10th, 2010

جامعة الدول العربية
Jāmaʻat ad-Duwwal al-ʻArabiyya Arab League Flag

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ICG sent out the following from its Mark Armstrong today:

The United Arab Emirates’ Ambassador to the U.S. has come out publicly to support the prospect of military action against Iran’s nuclear facilities. Former U.S. Ambassador to the UN John Bolton responded by saying this is a view widely held throughout the Arab states in the Persian Gulf. This comes amid news that Iran, with the help of Russia, will have its own nuclear reactor up and running by September.

Other reports say that Saudi Arabia is working rapidly, with the aid of France, to achieve their own nuclear capability and “carrying Egypt and Jordan in their wake” according to DEBKAfile. News like this gives the prophecy about Jerusalem being surrounded with armies a whole new slant.

A perusal of British and European news shows that discomfort with the unassimilated Muslim population is growing all the time. They seem to walk on eggshells to avoid offending Muslim sensitivities, because that could be fatal. Or it could merely result in riots and arson, but either way political correctness dictates that those sensitivities must not be transgressed.

There’s a huge controversy in France over moves to ban the burqa. The obvious fear is that the covering will be used to disguise terrorists. But, the move counts as an insult and therefore acts of violence are expected and justified. European news brims with reports of terrorist plots, al Qaeda recruiters, random attacks against Jews, on and on it goes.

When you view dozens of these incidents and developments in the context of the widely expected economic meltdown stalking Europe, you must realize that major changes are in the offing that may well bring about a whole new order in Europe. Given the constant threat of terror, huge unpredictable Islamic populations and the fact that all of Europe is within range of Iran’s arsenal of missiles, the Middle East equation is ever present.

Much is happening in the world today (much more important than celebrity issues like what team Lebron James will play for or the jail sentence of Lindsay Lohan, both of which received much coverage by USA media this past week)–and much of the public does not realize how world events are aligning with end time Bible prophecy.

The must come a King of the South according to Bible prophecy (who also seems to be the Imam Mahdi of Islamic prophecy).  There must come a King of the North according to Bible prophecy (who also seems to be the Great Monarch of Catholic prophecy).

Essentially, for these prophecies to be fulfilled, certain changes must happen in Europe and the Middle East.  And events are aligning up for these prophecies to be fulfilled.

The situation in Iran is pushing the Arab Muslims to take bolder steps than they would likely to have done without Iran’s pressure.  One item that Mark Armstrong failed to point out (not that he needed to cover everything) is that the health of Egypt’s President Hosni Mubarak is an issue and it may be that either his replacement or something that happens because of his ultimate replacement will embolden someone to rise up to be the leader of a confederation of Middle Eastern/Northern African Islamic nations to become the final King of the South.

As far as Europe goes, it is realizing that for its civilization to continue similar to how it has been, that growing Islamic influence must be reversed.  And as reported here many times before (e.g. Burqa Banning in Belgium, Italy, France, and Australia), nations in Europe are starting to take steps in that direction.  There will be ups and downs in the European economy as I have long reported about, but ultimately, Europe will lead the world economically for a time.  Watch and see.

Some articles of possibly related interest may include:

The Arab World In the Bible, History, and Prophecy The Bible discusses the origins of the Arab world and discusses the Middle East in prophecy. What is ahead for the Middle East and those who follow Islam?
Is There A Future King of the South? Some no longer believe there needs to be. Might Egypt, Islam, Iran, Arabs, or Ethiopia be involved? What does the Bible say?
Is There an Islamic Antichrist?Is Joel Richardson correct that the final Antichrist will be Islamic and not European? Find out.
Catholic Prophecies: Do They Mirror, Highlight, or Contradict Biblical Prophecies? People of all faiths may be surprised to see what various Roman and Orthodox Catholic prophets have been predicting as many of their predictions will be looked to in the 21st century.
Barack Obama in Islamic Prophecy? There is actually a 17th century Shiite prophecy that some believe that Barack Obama will fulfill that will lead to a rising up of Islam.
Europa, the Beast, and Revelation Where did Europe get its name? What might Europe have to do with the Book of Revelation? What about “the Beast”? Is an emerging European power “the daughter of Babylon”? What is ahead for Europe?
Who is the King of the North? Is there one? Do biblical and Roman Catholic prophecies point to the same leader? Should he be followed? Who will be the King of the North discussed in Daniel 11? Is a nuclear attack prophesied to happen to the English-speaking peoples of the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand? When do the 1335 days, 1290 days, and 1260 days (the time, times, and half a time) of Daniel 12 begin? When does the Bible show that economic collapse will affect the United States?

Canada’s “Supremacy of God” Challenge

Friday, July 9th, 2010


Parliament Hill, Ottawa, Canada

COGwriter

The following is from the Constitution of Canada’s Charter of Rights and Constitution Act, 1982:

“Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law:”

This is not always recognized by the secular in Canada.  But it was by a judge last month and this is apparently upsetting some:

God’s place in Charter challenged

National Post, Ontario – July 8, 2010

When a judge last month ruled that a Catholic high school in Montreal could choose its own religious curriculum, in defiance of an order by the Quebec government, he wrote that the Charter of Rights and Freedoms specifically referred to “the supremacy of God” in its preamble…

Mr. Trottier this week called for a change to the Charter to remove the “supremacy of God” phrase, something that would be nearly impossible to accomplish. But his public objections have sparked a debate about why Canada shows such reverence in a prime legal document to the divine.

The phrase was cited by Superior Court Judge Gérard Dugré in June, as he ruled that Loyola High School, a Jesuit private school, did not have to use the provincial religion curriculum and could teach ethics and religion from a Roman Catholic point of view. He called Quebec’s demand on the high school “totalitarian,” using the preamble to the Charter to make his case.

“Canadian democratic society,” the judge wrote, “is based on principles recognizing the supremacy of God and the primacy of the law — both of which benefit from constitutional protection.”

http://life.nationalpost.com/2010/07/08/gods-place-in-charter-challenged/

God, of course, is supreme, whether the Canadian Charter says so or not.  And hopefully the atheists in Canada will not have that provision to the charter changed.  Canada, like other countries, despite its increased secularization, needs national repentance, not further turning away from God.  Canadians have Bibles available to them and should read them and heed what it says.

Some articles of potentially-related interest may include:

Anglo – America in Prophecy & the Lost Tribes of Israel Are the Americans, Canadians, British, Scottish, Welsh, Australians, Anglo-Southern Africans, and New Zealanders descendants of Joseph? Where are the lost ten-tribes of Israel? Who are the lost tribes of Israel? Will God punish the U.S.A., Canada, United Kingdom, and other Anglo nations? Why might God allow them to be punished first?  What will happen to the nation of Israel?
Is God’s Existence Logical? Some say it is not logical to believe in God. Is that true?
Is Evolution Probable or Impossible or Is God’s Existence Logical? Part II This short article clearly answers what ‘pseudo-scientists’ refuse to acknowledge.
Where Did God Come From? Any ideas? And how has God been able to exist? Who is God?
How is God Omnipotent, Omnipresent, and Omniscient? Here is a biblical article by Wallace Smith which answers what many really wonder about it.
What is the Meaning of Life? Who does God say is happy? What is your ultimate destiny? Do you really know? Does God actually have a plan for YOU personally?
The Bible: Fact or Fiction? This is a booklet written by Douglas Winnail that answers if the Bible is just a collection of myths and legends or the inspired word of God.

Guttenberg vs. Merkel?

Friday, July 9th, 2010

Karl-Theodor von und zu Guttenberg


Karl-Theodor Guttenberg…………………… Angela Merkel

COGwriter

Might Karl Guttenberg step up and replace Angela Merkel?  Notice the following news report:

For Merkel, a Summer to Sweat
New York Times – July 7, 2010

BERLIN — Summer vacation can’t come soon enough for Chancellor Angela Merkel. It will end a miserable semester of electoral setbacks, sagging poll ratings and political squabbles. But she can still take heart: After her biggest challenger, Christian Wulff, was sworn in as president last week, Mrs. Merkel has deflected any threat to her leadership.

Except, possibly, Defense Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg.

He is one of Germany’s most popular politicians, a status Mrs. Merkel enjoyed when she became chancellor nearly five years ago. She made climate change, human rights and freedom the hallmarks of her first term. Now, after taking charge of a center-right coalition last October, Mrs. Merkel seems to have lost her sparkle and enthusiasm in continuing her quest to modernize Germany…

That is in sharp contrast to Mr. Guttenberg, 38, who is a leading member of Bavaria’s Christian Social Union party. An eloquent, well-dressed aristocrat, Mr. Guttenberg, officials in his party say, is torn between remaining defense minister in Berlin or returning to Bavaria to pursue a much bigger political career. For more go to http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/08/world/europe/08iht-letter.html

There are reasons why this could go either way. Karl Guttenberg could possibly make a move for Angela Merkel’s job, or he might find that working within the EU itself may launch him further.  He also could wait on the sidelines–or may even have to.

As regular readers of this page are aware, I (and also PCG) believe that Baron Guttenberg is a potential candidate to be the final King of the North, the Beast from the sea in Revelation 13.  He remains one to watch, irrespective of what does and does not happen this summer.

Some items for further related study may include:

Who is the King of the North? Is there one? Do biblical and Roman Catholic prophecies point to the same leader? Should he be followed? Who will be the King of the North discussed in Daniel 11? Is a nuclear attack prophesied to happen to the English-speaking peoples of the United States, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand? When do the 1335 days, 1290 days, and 1260 days (the time, times, and half a time) of Daniel 12 begin? When does the Bible show that economic collapse will affect the United States?
2012 and the Rise of the Secret Sect This is a link related to a book by Bob Thiel (COGwriter). This also has YouTube videos related to 2012.  It explains what has been happening in Europe and some of how it will take over the USA, UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
2012 y el surgimiento de la secta secreta Nuevo libro del Dr. Thiel en Español.
Two Horned Beast of Revelation and 666 Who is 666? This article explains how the LCG views this, and compares this to Ellen White.
Europa, the Beast, and Revelation Where did Europe get its name? What might Europe have to do with the Book of Revelation? What about “the Beast”? Is an emerging European power “the daughter of Babylon”? What is ahead for Europe?


Gay Marriage Ban Declared Unconstitutional

Thursday, July 8th, 2010

COGwriter

A US judge just ruled that the 1996 “Defense of Marriage act” was “unconstitutional”:

Judge declares US gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

July 8, 2010 06:55 PM

By Michael Levenson, Globe Staff

A federal district court judge in Boston today struck down the 1996 federal law that defines marriage as a union exclusively between a man and a woman.

Judge Joseph L. Tauro ruled that the federal Defense of Marriage law violates the Constitutional right of married same-sex couples to equal protection under the law and upends the federal government’s long history of allowing states to set their own marriage laws.

“This court has determined that it is clearly within the authority of the Commonwealth to recognize same-sex marriages among its residents, and to afford those individuals in same-sex marriages any benefits, rights, and privileges to which they are entitled by virtue of their marital status,” Tauro wrote. “The federal government, by enacting and enforcing DOMA, plainly encroaches upon the firmly entrenched province of the state.”  For more see http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/07/judge_declares_3.html

And while all the so-called “Founding Fathers” of the USA believed that they should get morality (and to a degree laws, etc.) from the Bible, a judge apparently has decided that the writers of the US Constitution meant something different than they could have possibly meant.  And that Congress and President Clinton erred in 1996 by making that the law.

It is of curious note that a court in Europe recently ruled that bans on homosexual marriage were not in violation of the constitution.  LCG reported:

Europe Protecting Morals. “The European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, France has ruled that European countries currently prohibiting same-sex marriage are not violating the human rights of their citizens. In a 4-3 ruling, the court ruled against a lawsuit filed by two Austrian men who were denied permission to marry in 2002 by Austrian officials.” Although the court ruling does allow individual nations to support same-sex partnerships, it also clearly states that such support does not require such partnerships to be granted all the same rights and privileges of traditional marriages (Catholic News Agency, June 29, 2010). Although elements throughout Europe appear to be “casting off restraint” and moving away from Judeo-Christian values, the Vatican and even some of the courts are moving to uphold and maintain some of these traditional values. As time moves forward and many Israelite-descended nations, including the U.S., Canada, Australia, and New Zealand move further away from their traditional value base, this could create tension with a Europe that is working to maintain some of these same values. Bible prophecy reveals that at the time of the end, many of the descended nations of Israel will be taken into captivity by a European beast power (Deuteronomy 28:64-68; Amos 4:2; Amos 5:2-3). Could disagreement over traditional values be one of the dividing points that help create more animosity between the beast and these nations?

And while the Europeans are not know to be more moralistic than Americans, it is interesting that all of them have not yet gone as far as the USA judge has.

Some items of possibly related interest may include:

What Did Jesus Teach About the Ten Commandments? This article quotes what Jesus actually said about them (His words are in red).
The Ten Commandments Reflect Love, Breaking them is Evil Some feel that the ten commandments are a burden. Is that what Jesus, Paul, Peter, James, and John taught?
Was the Commandment to Love the Only Command?
Some have stated that John’s writings teach this, but is that what the Bible really says?
The Ten Commandments and the Early Church
Did Jesus and the Early Church keep the ten commandments? What order were they in? Here are quotes from the Bible and early writings.Prophecies of Barack Obama? Eight reasons why Barack Obama is apocalyptic and eight reasons why Barack Obama is not the Antichrist. This article includes many biblical and non-biblical prophecies, from around the world, that seem to discuss Barack Obama. Did Nostradamus predict Barack Obama dealing with the Antichrist?  Might Barack Obama set the stage for the kings of the North and South as at least one Shiite prophecy suggests?  This is the longest and most complete article on this page on Barack Obama prophecies. Read it and decide for yourself if President Obama seems to be fulfilling various prophecies.
Barack Obama, Prophecy, and the Destruction of the United States Some claim that Barack Obama is the prophesied “son of Kenya”, based up an early 20th century writing.
Anglo – America in Prophecy & the Lost Tribes of Israel Are the Americans, Canadians, British, Scottish, Welsh, Australians, Anglo-Southern Africans, and New Zealanders descendants of Joseph? Where are the lost ten-tribes of Israel? Who are the lost tribes of Israel? Will God punish the U.S.A., Canada, United Kingdom, and other Anglo nations? Why might God allow them to be punished first?

China Claims Debt Will Not Be Used as a Threat

Thursday, July 8th, 2010
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Devil = Secret + Person + Garden

COGwriter

China has publicly changed a tune:

  • JULY 8, 2010

China Says It Won’t Use U.S. Debt as Threat

By AARON BACK

BEIJING—China’s foreign-exchange agency sought to ease concerns about how it uses its huge currency reserves, saying it operates on market principles and would never wield its holdings of U.S. government debt as a threat.

The statement Wednesday by the State Administration of Foreign Exchange was the latest in a series of moves by the agency aimed at addressing concerns about its influence. Presented in question-and-answer form, the statement, posted on the agency’s website, rebutted what it portrayed as misconceptions about its management of China’s $2.4 trillion in foreign-exchange reserves, the world’s largest.

The statement rejected the notion posited by some analysts and American politicians that China’s large holdings of U.S. debt constitute a “threat” to the U.S. The agency said the market for U.S. sovereign debt remains an important one for China’s reserves, due to its security, liquidity, large capacity and low transaction costs…

In response to what it presented as a question about whether China would use its reserves as a “nuclear weapon,” Wednesday’s statement said such concerns are “totally unnecessary.” http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704545004575352553747891766.html

Well, earlier this year, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton correctly claimed that the debt is a threat to the USA.

Some Chinese officials have also stated that the debt is being used as a threat.  Chinese-run state media have called it their “nuclear option” (China Has Major US Dollar Reserves That It Can Cash In).  The “gold” comment is interesting, because while it is not in China’s interest to buy nearly up nearly all the gold (that would really make gold irrelevant around the world if it did that), China has been increasing its gold reserves and even encouraging their citizens to buy it.  But if it publicly claims that it will greatly increase gold reserves, it would drive up the market and make its purchasing more expensive for the Chinese.  So, publicly they have tried to minimize comments about the governments plan to increase gold reserves.  But it is true that gold is not the only, nor main, asset that the Chinese want.  They want oil, lumber, food, international ports, minerals, land, and political influence (and holding the debt gives them that last item).

Of course, this “debt will not be used as a threat statement” by the Chinese is nonsense.  Much of what China itself appears to be doing is consistent with what the late Deng Xiaoping once expressed,

China must hide brightness and nourish obscurity . . . to bide our time and build up our capabilities (Source: Times Online).

The reality is that of course China expects to continue to use the debt as a political weapon.  However, it is likely to hold on to it for too long and lose somewhat because of it (though it may end up with Australia as partial repayment as part of a European-brokered deal) as the USA will not pay it all back (and if it does, it would be in almost worthlessly devalued dollars).

It matters little what some in China publicly state about debt not being a threat, the Bible is clear that in the time of the end, a great indebted power will fall after its creditors rise up against it (Habakkuk 2:1-9).  According to the Bible, “the borrower is servant to the lender” (Proverbs 22:7).  The USA is insane if it believes that it is safe for it to continue to increase its debt with world powers like China and not face consequences from it.  The USA needs national repentance, not just placating statements from some of the Chinese.

Some articles of possibly related interest may include:

China, Its Biblical Past and Future, Part 1: Genesis and Chinese Characters This article provides information showing that the Chinese peoples must have known about various accounts in the Book of Genesis up until their dispersion after the Tower of Babel.
China, Its Biblical Past and Future, Part 2: The Sabbath and Some of God’s Witness in China When did Christianity first come to China? And is there early evidence that they observed the seventh day sabbath?
Asia in Prophecy What is Ahead for China? Is it a “King of the East”? What will happen to nearly all the Chinese, Russians, and others of Asia? China in prophecy, where?
Anglo – America in Prophecy & the Lost Tribes of Israel Are the Americans, Canadians, British, Scottish, Welsh, Australians, Anglo-Southern Africans, and New Zealanders descendants of Joseph? Where are the lost ten-tribes of Israel? Who are the lost tribes of Israel? Will God punish the U.S.A., Canada, United Kingdom, and other Anglo nations? Why might God allow them to be punished first?

LCG: Christians Are Politically Incorrect

Thursday, July 8th, 2010


Living Church of God Sign & Family

COGwriter

In today’s commentary, LCG’s Sheldon Monson wrote:

Politically correct?

By Sheldon Monson | Thursday, July 08, 2010
When you look around, do you feel like you’re out of step with the rest of the world?  Do you wonder why you seem to be among the few that still stand by your values and principles?

Most people don’t enjoy conflict.  As Christians we pray for peace.  We want to get along with everyone.  We realize that others have different views and opinions than we do, but we do not hate them for it.  Conversely, people seem to despise us for the beliefs we hold dear.  Do you wonder why the values we embrace make us “politically incorrect?”

As Christians, we don’t want to cause problems.  We certainly don’t want to offend anyone, but we believe that there is a difference between right and wrong.  Every day we are faced with a choice: do we stand quietly by and say nothing?  Or do we cling to our principles and stand up, and speak out?

When we read the scriptures, it becomes clear which approach we should take.  We find numerous examples to light our path.  We see many examples of men and women embracing the truth, standing by their beliefs, and holding fast to their principles and values.  We find Christians who know what they believe.  We see men and women of conviction and faith. We read the accounts of those brave souls who possessed the courage to make tough decisions; to swim against the current.

The core values they internalized and the strength of their convictions allowed many of these heroes and heroines to face persecution, and even death, with unwavering resolve.  There are the examples of Joshua and Caleb, Esther, Daniel, David, Shadrack, Meshack and Abednego, and many others.  When we studying the scriptures, it becomes clear which choice we must make.  It is the choice to stand up, to speak out, to go against the grain and let our voice be heard.  We must not hide.  We must not compromise with what we believe to be right, no matter what consequences follow.  For if we deny Christ, He will deny us.

True Christians must “take the path less traveled.”  If we find ourselves on the “outside,” if we find ourselves to be “politically incorrect,” then we are in good company, for this is where Christ found himself.  He never sinned.  He loved His enemies and prayed for them.  He brought a message of peace and hope to the world.  But in the end, He was crucified for what He believed and taught.

History is replete with the examples of the prophets, apostles, and other disciples of Christ who suffered persecution, torture, and who were put to death for standing up and speaking out for the things they believed.  Christians will follow the example Christ set, and, if they are truly “Christians,” their voices will be heard.  Their voices must be heard!  The world will be a better place because of it.

If we believe that the Word of God is our guide, that it is the final authority defining what is right and what is wrong, and that we must live our lives according to it, we will not be popular.  We will come under attack by those who would like to reshape what we are and what we believe.  The “politically correct” will attempt to change us into their image, and will be relentless in their pursuit of this goal.  They will label what we say as hateful and dangerous.  When they do, we must not cave.

We must steadfastly resist the urge to conform and go with the flow, even though it is the easy thing to do; the popular thing to do.  We must resolve to do what we know is right as defined by God’s Word.  It is not enough to stand quietly by.  If we do not have the courage to speak up, who else will?  We are the defenders of the truth!

Of course, since I also try to follow the Bible and write the truth, you will often find that the COGwriter website is “politically incorrect”.

Some articles of possibly related interest may include:

Is God’s Existence Logical? Some say it is not logical to believe in God. Is that true?
Is Evolution Probable or Impossible or Is God’s Existence Logical? Part II This short article clearly answers what ‘pseudo-scientists’ refuse to acknowledge.
Where Did God Come From? Any ideas? And how has God been able to exist? Who is God?
How is God Omnipotent, Omnipresent, and Omniscient? Here is a biblical article by Wallace Smith which answers what many really wonder about it.
What is the Meaning of Life? Who does God say is happy? What is your ultimate destiny? Do you really know? Does God actually have a plan for YOU personally?
The Bible: Fact or Fiction? This is a booklet written by Douglas Winnail that answers if the Bible is just a collection of myths and legends or the inspired word of God.
Read the Bible Christians should read and study the Bible. This article gives some rationale for regular bible reading.
What is the Appropriate Form of Biblical Interpretation? Should the Bible be literally understood? What do the writings of the Bible, Origen, Herbert W. Armstrong, and Augustine show?
Bible and Historical Resources on the Internet Electronic bibles, Two Babylons, early Christian literature, photos, and even links to old Herbert W. Armstrong materials.
Lies Where did they originate? What was really the first lie? What happens for lies?
There are Many COGs: Why Support the Living Church of God? This is an article for those who wish to more easily sort out the different COGs. It really should be a MUST READ for current and former WCG/GCI members or any interested in supporting the faithful church. It also explains a lot of what the COGs are all about.